5 years ago#1
jbenwa
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I have a Colt 45 1911 and holster. I can't find another one like it. It has a chrome finish and plastic handle grips. Serial #2143680. The leather holster is marked with US enclosed by an oval on the front flap and on the back BOYT with 43 under it. It has a small crescent near the right top of the grip and a 5 on the trigger guard. Those are the only markings. What is the value of this pistol?

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5 years ago#2
bigcurt
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the reason you proably can't find one like it may be because they weren't chromed for service use ,,it may have been a parade or honor guard pistol that was chromed at some time after the war,,at least i never heard of any being chromed,,and it wasn't really a practice of having a shiny gun in combat,,to easy of a target for snipers,,but i have seen chromed 1903 +0a3 springfields used for parade and and honor guard use,,to a colt collector they'd be curio that some would want just to have one in there collection but most would pass on because most collectors aren't intrested in guns unless original or something that can be documented as a specif weapon used by someone or at sometime in history,,i've seen german lugers that were bringback guns that vets had chromed after the war and they really didn't command the prices that unchromed versions brought,,so i'd guess on yours is one of the above reasons is why it's chromed,,unless you could put a name on it as being presented to some high ranking officer then i'd say the value would be lower than a standard colt 1911a1,,i do remember also i beleive there were commemerative versions available from a collection house that usually don't bring high dollars because they were made to be collectable ,,value is a hard thing to tell without really seeing what you have ,,but i'd say mabey somewhere between 500-1000,,and thats just a guess,,i beleive when we sold the chromed luger at the shop i work for we got 650 for it,, so i'm kinda baseing it around those figures,,if the same pistol wouldn't have been chromed it would proably have brought around 1000 or more ,,so it's a call shot to what exactly it might be worth and your best bet would be at auction or to a colt collector looking for an unusual version of the 1911 for his collection,, as for your holster ,,if it's a brown one i'd say around 75-150,,if balck id say 40-around 100 depending on the condition,,
bigcurt

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4 years ago#3
greg
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Hello ,
I have the same type colt 45 1a 1911 that you talk about and have been trying to find out more about them they were an special type of 45 it not a aftermarket chrome it was done when the gun was made let me know what you found out so far.
greg

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4 years ago#4
DRAKE DARKANGELO
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Years ago I had a 1911 chromed in Ft Worth TX,as I was an undercover agent and wanted the drug dealers to see it when it came out in their face-usually in a dark back alley.It worked very well,both as a symbol and as a weapon,but I had to sell it in California years later when things got tight.

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4 years ago#5
kcbuck
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Are you that guy that shoved that thing in my face down at Sundance Square? I could see it very well thank you very much.... once is quite enough.
Just Kidding,
kcbuck

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4 years ago#6
guest
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Kevin you are funny! Many times I look at your responses to questions just for pure entertainment value. At least you make me laugh!!

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4 years ago#7
kcbuck
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That's funny.... My wife says that why she keeps me around too, for entertainment reason only. You know her? I call her The Bonehead as one time she wanted to fax me a check when I was on the road. How did that work? Not to good.... Hence, "The Bonehead", some call her Ellen.

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4 years ago#8
guest
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Yeah, I read that story about why you call her "bonehead". If you should ever be on the road again and run low on money, just call her up and tell her to fax some Benjamins asap. LOL

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4 years ago#9
kcbuck
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By god, she'll do it and then want me to pay her back too. Bless her Bonehead - she's fun to watch too especially when she's working in the wood shop....

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4 years ago#10
guest
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Ahh oh..what does she do in the woodshop that makes her fun to watch? Sounds interesting!

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4 years ago#11
gman
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Yes but mine isnt a colt 1911 its a US&S which is much harder to find and the thing look like not aftermarket

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4 years ago#12
kcbuck
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Built me a 2 tier guitar cabinet with tri-bay doors and beveled glass and a pedal box for my 8 effects pedals. She also built a home entertainment center in the corner of the living room with a glide out shelf for the turn table. Yes, we still have a lot of LP's from way back when like the 60's, 70's, and 80's.... She's a keeper..... The Bonehead.

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4 years ago#13
guest
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I thought you were gonna tell me something else that was dimwitted.

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4 years ago#14
kcbuck
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Dimwitted indeed.... I happen to be a great source of idle dribble, I'll have you know....

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3 years ago#15
floridajames
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I have the same 1911 chrome. Leather holster. US in the oval. I dont think this was done aftermarket. Send me an email, id love to see pics of what you have. <email>

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3 years ago#16
floridajames
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I have the same 1911 chrome. Leather holster. US in the oval. I dont think this was done aftermarket. Send me an email, id love to see pics of what you have. <email>

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3 years ago#17
KerryL
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To all interested parties,

There was only 1 factory chrome Colt military m1911/1911A1 produced, and guess what - you don't own it! It was a m1911A1 sn 1113488 and was a gift to the Chief Ordance Inpspector, Maj. FM Volberg.

Kerry

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3 years ago#18
gman
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we can trade pictures my other screen name is nanan01 at american online which is aol.com not sure if this site censors so if you email me put 1911 in subject line

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3 years ago#19
gman
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you are right kerry because mine is an union singal and switch 1911 and not an colt which makes me wonder who it was for?

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3 years ago#20
KerryL
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There were no factory chromed military model 1911A1's (or m1911's for that matter), with the exception of the Colt I mentioned. There was only one manufacturer nickel plated pistol (a Colt) that was also a given to FM Volberg that eventually made it's way to the open market and sold a couple years ago at Rock Island Auction.

US&S did make some presentaion pistols, but they had an EXP prefix and came finished in Dulite (some were finished over a polished metal and have a bright blue finish).

Remington Rand made 2 gold plated presentation pistols, and around 100 experimental pistols with an ERRS prefix, many of which became presentation pistols. 4 of these were high polish blue finish. They also made about 150 demonstration pistols, none of which were plated.

Ithaca made 50 presentation pistols with an IG prefix. All were blued. One featured gold inlays. It was a gift to General Eisenhower. 4 additional presentation pistols were made and engraved with their recipient's names.

Many, many (manymanymanymanymany) folks that either brought home their pistol or bought one from the DCM in the 50's or 60's had their pistols chrome or nickel plated. It was the "thing to do" back then.

I'm not bashing plated pistols (even though I don't really care for them - even factory plated) but I thought I'd give you guys a little reality check. None of you own a factory plated pistol (unless your last name is Volberg).

Kerry

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3 years ago#21
gman
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hello do you have an email address to send pictures too? or does this site send them

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3 years ago#22
KerryL
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start a new thread and post pics and your questions on it.

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3 years ago#23
gman
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my dad came back from nam with the gun i seen it when he pulled from his duffle and he tucked it away

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2 years ago#24
Nanan01
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Then you hit the nail on the head the .45 isnt an colt its a U.S & S model I am going to check to see if i see a exp on it but where would i be looking for that at? i dont think it has that on there but this gun was sent back from Nam by my father and that how it looked from when i was a child he never did anything with it"plating" he wasnt a gun person so he never used it I did take it and shoot it and it works like a charm. I can send close up pictures if it helps ,I think it chrome but im not sure .

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8 months ago#25
gman
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did you ever get pictures to trade

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8 months ago#26
discover
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nope

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