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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #1
I was looking for any info and value on 2 guns.. The first is a Winchester 30WCF 1894 with octagon barrel serial #135524... And the other is a Winchester 1879 40-60WCF single shot octagon barrel serial # 32973... Thank you
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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago #2
ToddP

Read this link and try to give me more info and then I can give you a much better answer to your question. Right now the gap in value is thousands of dollars.
http://www.gunvaluesboard.com/why-i-need-photos- 254864.html#25490

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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago #3
Thank you for your help...What about the 40-60 single shot I cant seem to find any info on that gun .. Behind the trigger it reads Oct 17, 79..
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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago #4
Todd,

Your pictured rifle is a Model 1885 Hi Wall single shot rifle. The serial number indicates production in 1889. Unlike most othere Winchester rifles there is no model designation stamped on the upper tang of these rifles.

Here is some info on these rifles:

The Model 1885 Single Shot was the first John M. Browning design (and the first single shot) to be built by Winchester. With nearly 140,000 being manufactured from 1885 to 1920, the Single Shot was offered in just about any barrel length and chambering available.

Offered in both “High Wall” and “Low Wall” frames, these terms refer to the sides of the receiver and their position in relation to the hammer. With the High Wall version, built for the more powerful cartridges, just the tip of the hammer is visible when viewed from the side; the Low Wall, chambered for such pleasant shooting rounds such as the .22 Rimfire and 25 WCF, exposes the entire side of the hammer.

About 60 cartridges found their way into the 1885's chamber. Everything from the .22 Rimfire through six-gun cartridges such as the .38-40 and 44-40; "modern" smokeless rounds of .30-30, .303 British, .33 WCF and .35 WCF; buffalo hunting rounds such as .45-90, .45-120, .50-110; the ever popular .45-70; and such all time powerful loads as .405 Winchester (Teddy Roosevelt's Big Medicine cartridge), and .577 English.

The 1885, as with most Winchesters of the time, was offered with many options including rifle, musket, carbine, and 20 gauge shotgun; barrel length; round, octagon barrels or a combination thereof; set triggers, fancy wood, special sights; Schuetzen rifle configuration complete with palm rest, double set triggers, special cheekpiece stock, and long range target stocks.


It is a bit hard from just one photo to give an accurate value number. I can see that the stock is much lower than the upper edge of the steel butt plate and that is a big red flag that indicates the stock has been sanded and refinished. I will need a number of other photos to give you an accurate number. Start at the stock and just work your way up one side and down the other. It could take ten shot or so. You can send me a private message and I will give you my email to make sending the photos easier.

Read the first blog post to see how I did this for somebody else.

Hope to work more on both of your rifles
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Posted 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago #5
Todd,

Your Model 1894 was made in 1898. Duplicate the photo effort for it and send them to me.

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