5 years ago #1
hnpjr
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What is value of a Winchester Model 61 22 pump rifle(22 sl OR LR), with serial no. 14165, 11 grooves on slide? Barrel and other metal is pitted; wood is in very good condition. Gun is operable.

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5 years ago #2
2bit
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hnpjr,

It doesn't look like you got a reply. But then there isn't a question either. I'll add this.

Your rifle dates to 1936. The fact that you describe the metal as being pitted yet the wood is excellent tells me that the wood has been refinished. Typically wood and metal condition go hand in hand on a rifle. If they do not something is amiss. The poor condition and the non original state makes the rifle of very low value to collectors. Probably less than $200.

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2bit

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3 years ago #3
22AGS
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The rifle is actually stamped 1935 on the barrel,a third year gun, and the condition has been vastly improved by the removal of the rust as well as the frozen-in-place magazine tube. The wood is factory original but truly in good shape, the metal not so much as the gun obviously was put away after being rained on without benefit of a wipedown, hence the solid rust in the hidden places. The gun's new owner (me) has put about 300 rounds through it now with zero function issues. A Big 45 Frontier pad was used to remove all of the surface rust, leaving a darker staining on the metal throughout. But this gun is now in decent enough shape that I just turned down an offer of 450 dollars for it, and am not interested in selling it. A pre-war s-l-lr, well worth what I paid once cleaned up. However, a non-gunsmith would have ruined the mag tube attempting to remove it from the support rings as it was fused together. I have an extensive background with these particular rifles and consider them to be the very best 22 ever offered, matched perhaps only by the semi-auto model 63.

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3 years ago #4
Bert H.
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I agree that it is a 1935 vintage Model 61, but that fact makes it a 4th year production rifle instead of a third year.

Per the Polishing Room Serialization records, production of the Model 61 began in early 1932 and was brisk with 9,237 made. Production was very light in 1933, with just 1,652 made, it picked up a bit in 1934 with 3,061 made, and was light again in 1935 with just 2,112 made.

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3 years ago #5
22AGS
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AHA, Bert! Yeah you got me on the math. I just couldn't resist answering this old message as it's a small world that I actually found an inquiry on this specific gun, 14165. Picked it up from a nice gentleman in Lakeland last month. The metal is smooth to the touch now but mottled from the rust staining. You can see pictures of it on RFC in the Winchester board under "Finally met my match" or something like that. Shoots great and has the smooth action these guns are noted for. Other than cosmetics, it's perfectly functional. But the original quote of 200 is actually close to the mark considering the degree of difficulty and time involved in getting rid of the corrosion. The thing is, you would never see a model 61, at least down here, for 200 dollars! Thanks for the information.

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3 years ago #6
Bert H.
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It is a very good thing that someone like you rescued it, and then brought the life back into it.

Yes indeed, it is a much smaller world now that the internet allows us to do exactly what you did... find that old rifle, and find this forum as well.

Bert H.

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2 years ago #7
Gruffbear
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these rifles range from 350-2000.00 so don't let anyone play you on it's value, I have a 1953 model that is in 97%+ was appraised at $1400.00, has the weaver .22 scope and side rail system offer at that time, was a rare estate find which i paid 275 just wanting a .22 for my kid, i still have my model 12A remington pump I grew up with,from 1913, it's in fair condition was my hunting rifle for near 20yrs and my dads for over 30, and so it saw a lot of grouse, and small game in it's time,
so if it is in good condition and you still have it lets talk i can at least if I see pics give you a very close price on it.

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2 years ago #8
Bob G.
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Hi Bert,

I have a Model #61 Pump .22 Rifle and was just wondering what it would be worth? Other than the Model the other number is #3166

Thanks,
Bob G.

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2 years ago #9
Bert H.
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Bob G. wrote:
Hi Bert,

I have a Model #61 Pump .22 Rifle and was just wondering what it would be worth? Other than the Model the other number is #3166

Thanks,
Bob G.


Hello Bob,

The value is determined by the graded condition. We need to see several clear detailed pictures of your rifle before a value assessment can be made.

Bert H.
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