Winchester Model 1873 King's Improvement Serial Number 30989

4 years ago #1
Julia Jonas
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What is the value if one owns serial number 30989 King's Improvement?

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4 years ago #2
Bert H.
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Hello Julia,

The value of your Winchester Model 1873 is determined by the specific configuration, and the graded condition. The serial number just tells us how old it is. If you can post several clear close-up pictures of your Model 1873, we can properly evaluate and assess it for you.

Bert H.

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4 years ago #3
Winchester 44 King's ...
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So Bert, you'd clearly be the guy who could give me my answer. But the gun is in a gun safe in Nevada. I can't get pictures. It's in "good" condition and it still shoots. Can you give me a range that isn't as wide as $600 - $100,000? It has NO markings of a limited series nature (1/1000). But it does have these markings and they are tiny:
WINCHESTERS-REPEATING-ARMS
NEW HAVEN CT.
KING'S IMPROVEMENT-PATENTED-
MARCH 29 1866. OCTOBER 16. 1860.

Top tang is marked "MODEL 1876" Can't find any fleur de lis. The barrel is round.

The markings are hard to see but there and the gun is beautiful. Did I mention that my father won it in a poker game in Alaska in 1942? I think I did.

Thanks for anything you can come up with. I'm considering a sale for my son's college education.

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4 years ago #4
Bert H.
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Hello again Julia,

I should have mentioned that with the Kings Patent date that it could also have been a Model 1876, as it also has the exact same Patent dates as the Model 1873.

The serial number tells me that your Model 1876 was manufactured in the Fall of 1882.

There are several pieces of additional information that are needed to form a general idea of the value.

1. What specific cartridge is it chambered for (e.g. 40-60 W.C.F., 45-60 W.C.F., 45-75 W.C.F., or 50-95 W.C.F.)?

2. What is the barrel length (28-inches was standard)?

3. Does it have a set trigger?

4. Is the butt plate a standard crescent style with a trapdoor in it?

5. If it has a trapdoor butt plate, does it still have the original 4-piece cleaning rod stored in the butt?

6. Is the butt stock a straight grip (standard) or a pistol grip?

7. Are the stocks plain (smooth) or are they checkered?

8. Is the magazine tube full length to the barrel, or is it several inches shorter?

9. Is the mortise (dust) cover still attached to the top of the receiver frame?

Each one of your answers to my questions will affect the end value of your Winchester. Without the answers to my questions, it truly is not possible to provide a value estimate that is any closer than $2,000 - $50,000. And once again, I really do need to see some clear pictures of the gun in order to provide you with an accurate value assessment.

Bert H.

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4 years ago #5
Julia Jonas
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Thank you, Bert, for your excellent questions. My people in Nevada, where my gun is stored, can help with this. I will have answers and pictures by August 1.

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4 years ago #6
Jay Clark
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Hi Burt,

I have a few questions regarding a similar firearm. If you have a moment please drop me an email. I would like to know you thoughts. <email>

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4 years ago #7
Bert H.
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Jay Clark wrote:
Hi Burt,

I have a few questions regarding a similar firearm. If you have a moment please drop me an email. I would like to know you thoughts. <email>


Hello Jay,

Please post your question and the details as a separate topic. Email addresses can not be posted in the general forums. If you register and send me a PM (Private Message) with your email address, it is possible to correspond privately.

Bert H.
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4 years ago #8
Jay Clark
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Thanks for your reply Burt.

Just wondering the best way to get the accurate value of a Winchester 1876, thought it was a 1873, but have discovered it is a 1876 45-60 Cal.

Any recommendations you could give me toward determining the highest value would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Jay

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2 years ago #9
steven
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Burt i have a similar rifle maybe if you get this you could contact me i have an 1866 patend 45-60 serial 30788 its in OK condition has the pop up sight in rear flip up on barrel its in OK condition wood is original pretty good shape has patina of course blue is ok but im looking for a value and some knowledge

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