Seems this question gets asked a lot, and although I don't see any answers myself on any PDF or other data sheets I have to ask. I have a 20GA 101 Pigeon XTR 25.5 length barrels serial number by memory is PK273XX. I recently saw an answer for someone with a K00082x as a 1966 since mine has the PK and 5 digits should I believe it's older then the LOST serial numbers (after 1971) or is someone sitting on a mystical source of information?
If you know when mine was made I'd like to know. Thanks
Very little information was ever released concerning the serialization of the Model 101. Winchester manufactured them up through early 1981, then when they sold out to the U.S. Repeating Arms Company, they continued the line. Very shortly after the U.S.R.A.Co. took over production, the Pigeon XTR was introduced. That tells me that your gun was made no earlier than mid-year 1981, and that it is not a "Winchester" made gun. The barrel should be marked with a ™ symbol.
Thanks, I figured there wasn't much to know. and I check the number again it's actually PK278231E. The other thing which strikes me about these fine shotguns is there seem to be several coin engraving , I mean how r to tell a pigeon from a quail for the novice, I seen dogs on them and mine has what looks like a crazed pigeon or pheasnt one side and what looks like a snipe on the other , long beak bird. Well again thanks for the reply.
Hello again Bill,
Frankly, I know very little about the Model 101 (other than they are a very nice gun), and that they were made in many different grades. Some of them have very nice engraving. To those that collect and shoot them, they can be quite valueable, but I personally do not know what that value is.
Bill I may be able to give you some of the answers to your questions. The PK in your serial number means the gun is a Pigeon grade. Later Pigeon guns did not have the PK in the serial no. Winchester/Olin started importing the 101s in about 1981 and when the serial no. ends with an "E" it means the gun was inported in to the USA threw East Alton Il. Right after the PK there is a 2. That means the gun is a 20 gauge, which you already know your gun is a 20 gauge.
I don't know the exact value but a guess would be about $800.00 to 1200.00 or more , depending on the condition. Jen at Nu Line Guns Inc , is my source of this info.
Thanks for that info,, the PK and the E info really help that's cool ! as far as the value being 800-1200 I wish you could buy a gun like this for that amount of money. I have not seen a gun like this for less then 2100-3000 in the least several years no matter who is selling it.
Again thanks for the info that's pretty interesting. strange how there's not alot of info on these guns, there more info on gun three time as old, just not much on thes. Have a great new year.
The lack of information on the Model 101 stems from the fact that all of them were made in Japan (Miroku). The records for them are very sparse.
All of the older Winchesters were manufactured at the New Haven, Conn factory, and many of the records were retained (though a fair number were destroyed over the decades).
i have a 101 xtr k472658e how old would it be thanks:
Another Bill here. I have a 101 with ser# pk277xxx mine has a quail on one side and a woodcock on the other. screw in tubes. Does this sound like yours. The 800 to 1200 price seems very low to me also compared of the price paid for this gun 20 years ago.