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5 years ago #1
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what year is my winchester model 12, 12 gauge shotgun with a serial number of 575041?

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5 years ago #2
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Hello, I am no expert on guns,but I bought a model 12 at an auction. A friend of mine at the turkey shoot gave me a print-out model 12,new style model 12 and model 1897s. The years and serial numbers are all there and I have no reason to disbeleive it. My 6 digit number starts with 335 and 304314-346319 is 1922. Yours is between <phone> and <phone> . That makes yours 1928. The gun stock that your trigger hand is on is long,sleek looking and feels good like mine.look at the newer guns and you'll see the difference. Six digit numbers start at <phone> to <phone> . 1029152 7 digit is 1946. VERY happy to give this info to you. That's what I use when I look at auction guns. Sincerely,Fran

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5 years ago #3
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Hello,

Serial 575041 was manufactured in August of 1928.

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Winchester model 12 serial number wrote:
Hello, I am no expert on guns,but I bought a model 12 at an auction. A friend of mine at the turkey shoot gave me a print-out model 12,new style model 12 and model 1897s. The years and serial numbers are all there and I have no reason to disbeleive it. My 6 digit number starts with 335 and 304314-346319 is 1922. Yours is between <phone> and <phone> . That makes yours 1928. The gun stock that your trigger hand is on is long,sleek looking and feels good like mine.look at the newer guns and you'll see the difference. Six digit numbers start at <phone> to <phone> . 1029152 7 digit is 1946. VERY happy to give this info to you. That's what I use when I look at auction guns. Sincerely,Fran


Hello Fran,

The currently published Model 12 and Model 1897 serial numnber lists (to which you refer) contain a significant number of errors. I am currently working on a brand new Winchester serialization book that will correct the errors published by George Madis and Dave Riffle. I expect to have it published this coming January.

To give you a few examples, Model 12 serial numbers 335,000 - 335,999 were all manufactured between January 10th - January 15th of the year 1923. The year 1928 began with serial number 541110 and ended with serial number 594589. Six digit serial numbers began in 1914 (serial number 100,000 was manufactured on 10-28-1914), and seven digit serial numbers (1,000,000) began on 12-19-1942. The very last Model 12 was serial number 1970885, May 28th, 1964.

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4 years ago #5
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when were these two winchester model 12 made 931018 1025063

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4 years ago #6
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vince wrote:
when were these two winchester model 12 made 931018 1025063


Hello Vince,

Serial 931018 is a September 1941 vintage gun.

Serial 1025063 is an August 1943 vintage gun.

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4 years ago #7
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any idea what they would be worth good-verygood cond. normal wear no rust ??

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4 years ago #8
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vince wrote:
any idea what they would be worth good-verygood cond. normal wear no rust ??


No, I do not... at this point, I do not even know what gauge guns they are, or what the specific variation of each gun is. A detailed description of each gun is needed, and if possible pictures of each gun.

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4 years ago #9
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they are 12 gauge 30 inch plain barrel on both they belong to a friend dont have any pic.he has them for sale just wondering what would be a fair selling price i think i might be able to get them for 150.00 each would they be worth more than that ??

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4 years ago #10
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So, they are most likely standard Field grade guns. In very good condition, they are worth at least $350 each.

Bert H.

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4 years ago #11
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Thanks Bert, for the info.

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4 years ago #12
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Bert, I have a Winchester Model 12 Featherweight - 12 gauge - modified choke - S.N.1825405F. Mint Condition Could you tell me what year it is and a rough value. Thank you very much. Randy

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Bert, I have a Winchester Model 12 Featherweight - 12 gauge - modified choke - S.N.1825405F. Mint Condition Could you tell me what year it is and a rough value. Thank you very much. Randy


Hello Randy,

October 1958. The value is in the $800 - $900 range.

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4 years ago #14
Model 12 Featherweight
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Bert,
Thank you very much for the information. The gun is three years older than I thought. Can you tell me over what years Winchester made the Model 12 Featherweights? It is a great gun in mint condition. Thanks again Randy

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4 years ago #15
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Hello again Randy,

Winchester introduced the Featherweight version of the Model 12 in 1957, and they discontinued it in December of 1962 with a total production of 42,132 units.

If you are interested in determining the precise date your gun was serialized (manufacture date), the Cody Firearms Musuem offers that service for a nominal fee. You can contact them by using the weblink that follows my signature line at the bottom of this reply.

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4 years ago #16
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I have a standard (I think?) model 12 the serial number is 831387 do you have any ideal what year it was made?
It is in good shape but has some wear I paid $130.00 for it is it worth it.

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4 years ago #17
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jim wrote:
I have a standard (I think?) model 12 the serial number is 831387 do you have any ideal what year it was made?
It is in good shape but has some wear I paid $130.00 for it is it worth it.


Hello Jim,

Your Model 12 was manufactured in 1939. If the gun functions and shoots good, $130 was a very good price.

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4 years ago #18
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can you tell by the serial # if it is the standard model?
The guy I got the gun from has another one also I believe it was a 20ga would it be worth about the same I can get the serial #'s, but if $130 was a good price I may buy That one also. What is the value of a good shape working model 12 from the 30's.

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4 years ago #19
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jim wrote:
can you tell by the serial # if it is the standard model?
The guy I got the gun from has another one also I believe it was a 20ga would it be worth about the same I can get the serial #'s, but if $130 was a good price I may buy That one also. What is the value of a good shape working model 12 from the 30's.


Jim,

The serial nummber tells us nothing other than when the gun was made. I will need to see pictures of the gun in order to determine what variation it is.

If all things are equal (condition and variation), a 20-gauge Model 12 is worth 1.5X what a 12-gauge gun is worth. The actual value is determined by the graded condition.

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4 years ago #20
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Thanks, you have been a lot of help.

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3 years ago #21
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Hey Bert, I just got a model 12 from my grandfather and I was just a little curious about it, such as year and worth and what not, its a 12 gauge with serial number 367110, I believe he sawed off the barrel down to 18", the butt stock has also been replaced, not very well may I add, it's nice and wobbly, and there is a crack on the wood of the pump, it has a small amount of rust, but it still shoots great. Thanks for any information you can provide.

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Ryan wrote:
Hey Bert, I just got a model 12 from my grandfather and I was just a little curious about it, such as year and worth and what not, its a 12 gauge with serial number 367110, I believe he sawed off the barrel down to 18", the butt stock has also been replaced, not very well may I add, it's nice and wobbly, and there is a crack on the wood of the pump, it has a small amount of rust, but it still shoots great. Thanks for any information you can provide.


Ryan,

It was manufactured in late 1923. If the barrel is 1-millimeter less than 18-inches across its entire face, the gun is worth 10-years in the federal prison system and a $250,000 fine. Othewise, it is almost worthless based on you description.

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3 years ago #23
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I have a shotgun that my father passed down to me, he says was passed down to him and so on. I'm interested in knowing more about it. The name imprint is kind of hard to read. It definately looks old. I can read 'nchester'. But I know it could be a Manchester but I can't find anything on Manchester. The butt of it has a squirrel. Its a 12 gauge, single shot break down style. Anything could help. Thanks

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What is my gun wrote:
I have a shotgun that my father passed down to me, he says was passed down to him and so on. I'm interested in knowing more about it. The name imprint is kind of hard to read. It definately looks old. I can read 'nchester'. But I know it could be a Manchester but I can't find anything on Manchester. The butt of it has a squirrel. Its a 12 gauge, single shot break down style. Anything could help. Thanks


The only way I can identify it for you, is to see several clear pictures of the gun.

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3 years ago #25
What is my gun
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The more I look at it I'm pretty sure its a Manchester, hopefully you know about those as well. Just looking for the age and approximate value range. Thanks

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3 years ago #26
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Unfortunately, I do not know anything about your Manchester marked shotgun. My expertise is almost soley with the Winchester manufactured firearms (pre-1964).

Bert H.

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3 years ago #27
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Do the serial number ranges listed in the charts incorporate all gauges or did they each have their own serial number range?

I just picked up a MOD 12, 16 GA Modified with 26" barrel with a serail number of 192942. If the serial number ranges are for all gauges then I guess thats around 1919...but I don't know for sure. Anyone have any idea if that is about an accurate manufacturing date?

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3 years ago #28
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Hello tmckee,

The serial number sequence included all gauges.

Serial number 192942 was manufactured in early 1918. As such, the barrel should be marked "MOD 1912".

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3 years ago #29
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Thanks Bert! Considering the age, should I be concerned with modern pressure loads?

Tyler

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3 years ago #30
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Yes, specifically, your Model 1912 was manufactured with 2-9/16" chamber. If you try to shoot it with modern 2-3/4" shells, the chamber pressure will be excessively high.

Bert H.

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