3 years ago #1
Guest
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What is the value of a 1843 44 caliber black powder revolver navy model engaged 16 may 1843. Serial number n 1309. This also has sailing ships engraved on cylinder..
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3 years ago #2
kcbuck
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Moved you to Muzzle Loaders & Black Powder forum for better results....

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3 years ago #3
JDD
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Guest, any other stamped letters or numbers?
Is the frame Brass?
JDD

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3 years ago #4
ynnad
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Thank you for your time! The only thing it has also is N1309 made in italy. Engaged 16 may 1843. Caliber 44. Navy model. Thtas all I can find....

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3 years ago #5
kcbuck
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I think our Black Powder guys/gals will be able to answer your questions. We all work for a living too, so please be patient....

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3 years ago #6
JDD
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ynnad,
You have a replica of the 1851 Colt Navy model.
The 1843 date is part of the roll engraving on the cylinder.
Originals were in .36 caliber, but reproductions are available in .44 also.
Turn the gun upside down and release the catch on the loading lever and pivit it up. There will probably be some additional marks on that bottom barrel flat.
There should be:
2- Italian proofmarks
1-Roman numeral OR two letter date code (not PN, thats a proofmark)
A makers mark.
Value can be effected by these marks, and the condition.
Will watch for your reply.
JDD

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3 years ago #7
holly
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sorry to insert myself n ur conversation but i would like to know more bout this type of gun also if u dont mind, because i also have 1. thank you

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3 years ago #8
JDD
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Holly & Guest.
Please click on this link to learn more about replicas from Italy.
https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/POWDER/ MBPProofmarks.pdf
JDD

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3 years ago #9
F Yeowell
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i have found the name OOM-GARDONE-V7 other marks are crossed swords with star* folowed by AA *PN reg no 14080

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3 years ago #10
JDD
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F yeowell,
Everything except the AA and the serial number are related to proofmarks.
AA = date code (1975).
Gardone is the name of the proof house.
OOM may be a makers mark, but I am not familiar with it.
JDD

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3 years ago #11
<email>
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i have a 36 calabre ,octagone 7 3/8 barell cap and ball eruo arms brescia engaged 16 may 1843 stamp on the brass in front of trigger =xx8

holster is lyon&coulson

there is scrimshaw carving on cylinder of a ship scene

ty if you can tell me if it is real or replica

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3 years ago #12
MingoFrank
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REPLICA.....


If it's made in Italy, it's a replica. If it has a brass frame, it's a replica. If it is a '51 Navy in .44 cal, it's a replica.

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3 years ago #13
outdoorsmen24
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i have a .44 navy arms as well with numerals xxv and its a 8080 for number on the bottom of the cylinder do you by anychance no how much its worth it has the navy arms case as well?thanks

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3 years ago #14
MingoFrank
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Again.... Brass frame or steel, condition?
Anywhere from $75-250 on the open market.

Mingo

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2 years ago #15
dennis
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need more info for a 1851 50 cal blackpowder

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2 years ago #16
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If you are referring to an 1851 Navy, they were only made in .36 cal although some companies make a .44 cal they call a Navy even though they never really existed.

Is it a revolver or single shot? How did you derive the 1851 date ?

More info please.

Mingo

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2 years ago #17
anto_w.
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i have 1 with the serial number 31361.. with the dates sept. 10, 1850 and may 16, 1843. is the value the same? it is also made in italy with san. marco & the letters VI on it

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2 years ago #18
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Yes....Serial number is irrelevant. The important thing is if it has a steel or brass frame ( not triggerguard, frame) and in a correct caliber for the gun ( .36 for Navies and .44s for Armies) . Uberti usually sell for a bit more than Pietta and others.

Mingo

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2 years ago #19
anto_w.
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its a .44 & i believe its a steel frame.. its not in front of me

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2 years ago #20
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Round or octagonal barrel??

Mingo

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2 years ago #21
anto_w.
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octagonal

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2 years ago #22
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That would make it a Navy style but in .44 cal. Fun guns to shoot but not a true copy if you are wanting to use it in an historic sense. Value would still be in the $150-175 range in excellent condition. Places like Cabelas often sell them new for $225 or so.

Have fun with it.

Mingo

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