5 years ago #1
rolex452
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This Phoenix Arms Raven, shiny nickel plated, with standard black grips is: ABSOLUTELY MINT, ORIGINAL AND UNUSED, IN ORIGINAL BOX WITH PAPERS. The pistol was bought in 1996 and was properly cleaned and stored for 14 years. It is pristine. All papers, including warranty card are intact. Box is in mint condition. Well, enough said: Approximately how much is is worth? I do not want to sell it for junk value to some local dealer who will resell it for a 500% profit. Thanks for any input!

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4 years ago #2
tyr_shadowblade
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Hi.

Unfortunately, these pistols aren't worth very much at all. A used one with scratched finish will usually sell for $50 - $75. New in box is valued at $150.

A lot of people hate the weak caliber and hate the fact that both the frame and the slide are brittle zinc alloy, but the Raven was surprisingly well designed. Many other brands of cheap pistol tried copying the design but were not as durable or reliable. Biggest negative about the chrome finish is it scuffs off so easily it will start getting scratched the first time you put it in your pocket -- that chrome is thin and soft and cannot be buffed or polished.

I always wanted one of these and would buy it from you for more than $150 if you were in Colorado, or swap you a better pistol. Shipping and FFL transfer fees would end up adding an extra $80 to the price.

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3 years ago #3
gunner7
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50 bucks

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3 years ago #4
tyr_shadowblade
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It is worth a lot more than "50 bucks." New, unfired, chrome, Phoenix Arms version in the original box with papers is worth significantly more than 100 dollars. It would sell for between 120 and 150 cash, with a trade value even higher than that. They are good little plinkers and functional paperweights, but I wouldn't want to carry one. As far as striker fired .25 automatics go, it really isn't that much worse than a Colt or a Browning, functionally anyway.

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3 years ago #5
rolex452
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I appreciate your reply, thanks. Now, I'm willing to sell this pistol for $150.00 PLUS: it includes an extra, brand new firing pin ($20.00 no charge) which the dealer sold me in case the original got damaged (gun is unfired, anyway). HOWEVER: I wish the buyer to pay the FFL dealer fees and shipping as well. At my end, I have a dealer fee of $35.00 plus the UPS secured shipping/insurance here in South Florida for his part in shipping the pistol. If you, or anybody reading this post is interested in buying the pistol and find these terms reasonable, please reply and we can work something out. Thanks again, have a great one!

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3 years ago #6
tyr_shadowblade
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Hi,

I'm no longer collecting this style of pistol, but depending on your jurisdiction's laws you might have good luck with a private party transaction locally via an online site such as armslist. Or you might be able to trade it towards something you like better.

When Ravens sell on gunbroker the fees and shipping is taken under consideration which keeps the prices low.

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3 years ago #7
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wow ,,150 for a raven???up north there 50-75 dollar guns like new used ,,must really have a demand down south for them,,lol,,don't know where there listed for 150 used ,,and even if you tell someone it's unfired it's still a used 2nd hand pistol..then factor in the 35 dollar dealer fee and the shipping costs ,,you could buy a ruger mk1 cheaper than a raven ,,and have twice the pistol that would last a lot longer than a raven ,,i don't think i ever herd someone compair a raven to a colt or browning ,,lol
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3 years ago #8
tyr_shadowblade
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Colt Vest Pocket and Browning Baby are smaller, lighter, better materials, better craftsmanship, and far more expensive . . . but it is the same basic design. All three are a SAO striker fired pistol with a safety switch which only immobilizes the trigger without blocking the striker. None is safe to carry with the striker cocked over a live round as they can fire if dropped, and metal fatigue on the sear or striker tab can even cause one to fire while sitting undisturbed in a desk drawer, although that is rare.

Unless it is a beater with lots of scratches and dents I never see one selling for less than 100 locally. It is easier to strip down than a Jennings and far more reliable. Probably the best of the cheapo "Ring of Fire" SNS automatics.

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3 years ago #9
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Thanks for your reply Bigcurt, but I don't think you read my original post (link #1): this is a pristine condition never fired pistol with mint condition box & paperwork and extra firing pin. There are very few of this pistol left in this condition, and somebody who collects all kinds of guns (even cheap ones) may have some interest. Nobody on this forum, espcially myself, ever said that the .25 caliber Phoenix Arms or Raven pistols were GOOD pistols, nor did I compare them in quality to Colt or Ruger or Walther or Beretta pistols of the same general size. In conclusion, I was originally asking what such a pistol may be worth in pristine condition 20 years after they stopped making them, and a gentleman said as much as $150.00, to which I replied that I would sell it for that price. I hope this clears things up. Thank you.

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3 years ago #10
Tommy
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If you still have the 25 caliber Raven I am looking for one as a gift to a friends son.

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3 years ago #11
rolex452
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Thanks for your inquiry, I appreciate it. I'm sorry, but I sold the pistol.

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3 years ago #12
Melanie P.
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Where are you located? I have one that I'm looking to sell. It's in perfect condition, never fired, pearl handle w/ chrome finish, comes in original box with papers, and will include the holster, and box of ammo.

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2 years ago #13
laugh at u u stupid lol
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ya tht is pretty stupid colt is a great gun dude u dnt no wht ur tlkin abut

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2 years ago #14
the_researcher
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lize that an un-fired raven arms would be more valuable than the later produced Phoenix. A little bit of research will justify my facts.

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2 years ago #15
tyr_shadowblade
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Ravens have very little collectable value. They have zinc frames and slides and most gun enthusiasts do not think highly of them. However, they are surprisingly reliable, extremely easy to strip down and replace parts on, and the ones with chrome finish look quite nice on LNIB examples. The chrome on the Phoenix Arms version was thicker and more durable than the original, the rotary safety switch was better designed, and it was the only version with a magazine safety. The chrome Phoenix Arms with fake pearl grips is the most sought after of all Ravens. $150 is a fair price for NIB. The earlier Raven Arms versions are actually worth less, but still sell for around $100 in excellent condition. If you are active on various forums and are friends with a number of collectors you can sometimes get a great deal on a used one in Excellent condition, like $75 or less. A friend of mine bought a "broken" Raven for $40, and all it needed was a new striker which was less than $10 on eBay. I have owned 5 Ravens and 2 Jennings J-22s over the years. I've also owned a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket and a Baby Browning. None of them are serious guns that you'd want to rely upon for protection or expect to put hundreds of rounds through at the range. They make great functional paperweights and conversation pieces.

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1 year ago #16
1911 jeep
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how much would a 1955 star .25 CO model be worth I think they are all very cool little guns I also have a baby browning .25 made in 1960 I would like to have a little raven had one when I was young sold it for 30 bucks lol. would like to know what a star would be worth.

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1 year ago #17
two old dogs
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Retail value for a gun in good or better condition would range from $100 to $175 depending on mechanical and bore condition and remaining original metal finish.

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1 year ago #18
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At this point in time (3 years later), allow me to answer my own question (for the benefit of those who would still like to know an approximate selling value): I sold the Phoenix Arms "Raven" .25 caliber privately over a year ago for $135.00. HOWEVER: this pistol was in absolute perfect, unused mint condition, WITH: a fine little holster and a brand new replacement firing pin which I had bought as a spare. The box was mint, as were all the original papers. I think the buyer got a fair deal. Thanks for all your answers to this post!

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12 months ago #19
eads
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I have one
just write bk if your lookin

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12 months ago #20
MingoFrank
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eads wrote:
I have one
just write bk if your lookin



What was your question?
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10 months ago #21
Neal
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I hear ya brother, there ainte no comparisment lol,
Like trying to compare a bicycle to a Tank lol

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