suicide gun

Can any recommend the best method and best model of gun for blowing one's brains out? I want it to be quick and painless. Is the temple the best method, or through the mouth? Which has the least chance of survival? I don't want to live through it and become a vegetable.

Also, for this purpose, what caliber should I use? And should I use a pistol or shotgun? And, which is most economical? I want to leave my family the most $$ I can.

Thanks everyone!

I think this guy is simply trolling here, trying to create a furor and get everybody upset. Face it, our interest in firearms is something that a lot of otherwise reasonable people simply cannot relate to and it makes some of the weaker minds among them think that we are fair game for their malicious mischief. Since most gun-hating liberals have the reasoning power of a twelve-year-old to begin with, it's not surprising that their sense of humor hovers around that level too.

'D. R. Crawford' < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it > wrote in message

For you, I recommend a .22 in the chest.

Away from home, so they don't feel compelled to move away from bad

Really? You think so?

Guns are messy for suicide. So are knives in cutting your wrist. That is really hard on your family and friends. If I were going to do that I would try to find something that would put me to sleep.... permanently. That to me would be the painless way to go.

But I strongly suspect you are there laughing with tongue in cheek. Please take care you don't bite your tongue.

Since you are trolling, I'll bite (even though I know it's bait). Insurance doesn't pay on suicide. I do think that the best odds of getting the job done, strictly firearms speaking, is to use a shotgun. Say like a 12 gauge with lots of shot. Go under the chin, aiming the path through the central portion of the brain. Hint; aim doesn't have to be real precise. I had a buddy that did that, and it worked real well for him. I know someone else (an acquaintance, not a friend) who used a .22. We call him 'Captain Helmet' now, because he is all F'd up and has to wear this skull cap thing. Lost one eye, the other's crossed, half his wits are gone or scrambled too. He still likes to hit the bars though sometimes. Any way, he always was a loser, couldn't even do that right.

I like the 'Thanks everyone' with the ! mark. Good! You are in good spirits.

I have heard that the thing NOT to do is put a gun against your temple. People supposedly often end up literally shooting through the orbits of their eyes and wake up in a hospital blind missing their eye sockets and what was inside of them. I think the advice of a double barrel shotgun with two triggers in the mouth is the way to go. But then you didn't mention if you want a wake? This is where it gets tricky. I think a really high powered, but still inexpensive, rifle might be the way to go. Don't worry about the quality of the stock. I think used would be fine. You might have to break the law and saw it down. Then hold the little hole at the end of the tube against your heart. (Where you put your hand thereabouts for the pledge of allegiance) Put the butt, the other end, against a wall and lean into it as much as you can and then push away from the wall very slowly by using the trigger as your point of pressure. They can cover up the big hole in you with a nice suit jacket. You didn't mention if you were a man or woman come to think of it. I can't remember if they dress female corpses showing their décolletage? Hmmm.

Also the bullet or shot pattern will go though your head or body and end up somewhere. You don't want to take out a healthy tree or a painting or something that someone else might enjoy. If you shoot yourself and the body isn't found for a while it is going to be a real nightmare for somebody to clean up. Have you thought about being covered with ants? That is something that would bother me.

Is there some reason why your family can't help you out? Why can't you go to a look out point and have one of them kiss you goodbye and then push you off the edge. Leave a bike on the side of the road that has been run over already. They can wait a day and call it a hit and run and get insurance? Course that is illegal too.

I wouldn't use my advice above after all. Ask a Police officer what he thinks. I would go to the station and find one with some time and tell him everything. I would paint one side of my face blue and the other side green. That really got the attention of Jack Webb and Henry Morgan in that old Dragnet show. I would walk in, my head held up high, my face painted blue and green, and ask to speak to the police chief. That is what you should do. Also you could buy a water pistol that is of high quality and realistic in appearance. Bring it with you. Point it at the officer very slowly while calling him a pig and bit down on an alka seltzer tablet at the same time and start foaming at the mouth. Give him a few seconds to react before you actual have your water pistol fully lined up. This way they will take you seriously and not just blow you off as a crank! Which COULD HAPPEN. You have to really steel yourself and be as sincere as possible. Say something about his mother too. That usually impresses people that you not there just to use the bathroom or ask for directions to the Fish Fry.

Thank YOU!

You could get far more reliable input from one of the suicide newsgroups. Most of us here use guns as a way to remain alive: not die!

You have only one brain: not brains. Do not fire at the heart because it is too easy to miss. Don't trust any caliber below .38. A Hydra-shock, Silver Tip or Gold Dot would be good ammo choices. However, a single barrel, 12 gauge, cylinder bore, shotgun provides the greatest certainty of death. OO buck shot is hard to beat. Do this far away from you house. Do place the gun butt against something solid, and place the muzzle so that it is pointed directly at the back of your throat.

Three seconds before you're ready to pull the trigger, use your tongue to press against the barrel as hard as you can. This increases inter cranial pressure; and as we all know, balloons under pressure burst better.

How serious you are is imposible to judge online; but in case you just wanted to stir up some posts, consider this. There might be folks here in this news group who are truly suicidal, and barely make it through the day without pulling the trigger. Most, if not all, already know the physics and physiology involved. For them, target shooting is a very ironic, yet healthful, distraction. They don't need folks like you reminding them of their options and/or the need...

Michael Whatever it takes.