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6 years ago#1
BigBen
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Hello, can anyone give me any info. on a remington .22 pump rifle. gun has no model # just has 2 pat. of 1902-1912, any info. on this gun would be a great help. oh it is in great shape. thanks

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6 years ago#2
kim32321
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hi bigben,
remington made a model 12 from 1909 - 1936. this link should take you to a picture of one. model number should be on the left side of the barrel;
http://www.remington.com/library/history/ firearm_models/rimfire/model_12.asp

Kim

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6 years ago#3
BigBen
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if this is the gun you are talking about, then why are the patd. 1902 and 1912. there is no model # anywhere on it although is looks alot like the one in the link you gave me but it is a little different.

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5 years ago#4
mpicetti4
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I was recently told these rifles if aplicable range from 1500.00 to 2500.00
Not a 100% which is why I have posted a similar question

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5 years ago#5
SiliconSorcerer
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They can look slightly different because there are different models of the 12, for example the 12a has a round barrel and the 12c or cs has a octagon barrel. The stocks may or may not be pistol gripped. If there is no model on it and it's a pump Remington it has to be a early model 12. By the time they started the barrel date codes in 1921 they were all marked.

Someone mentioned prices in a reply, a new in the box 12a is around a 1,200 gun and 12c maybe a 1,500 and you have to have LOTS of condition to get their value over $800. The only ones with higher values are D,E,F's which are engraved and they (in original condition) can easily go up to $10,000 in value.

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5 years ago#6
mpicetti4
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much much appreciated

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5 years ago#7
fatboyslim400ex
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i recently inherited one of these guns from my grandfather. i can not find the numbers on the left side of it either. i do however notice that there is a small letter p on the left side. it is almost completely covered where it goes into the reciver and i cannot find a way to take it apart. could this be somthing? there is what looks like another letter or possibly a number that is bellow it but is almost completly covered by the reciever is this where the id number is supposed to be?

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4 years ago#8
jg
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I'm guessing it is a model 12 pump. google remington model12 and see if the pics match. If so most are not worth a lot of money but few are if they have the octagon barrel and all original which means it doesn't work very well but they are great pieces.

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4 years ago#9
M Picetti
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most arent very valuable however dependant on how many shells you can put in it, and exact length of barrel determines the true value , I got one that was made at the interarms factory in the us b4 they moved to italy , with a 13 round under barrel magazine, andan odd length wich are the expensive ones.

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4 years ago#10
ron jackson
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I have a remington field master model 121 with numbers 156559 and left side of the triger number38

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4 years ago#11
SiliconSorcerer
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yes left side of barrel right in front of receiver, post a serial I can also tell you at least the year it was made.

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4 years ago#12
SiliconSorcerer
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field master model 121 with numbers 156559
Manufactured 1951.

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4 years ago#13
jon
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I have the same gun and it is worth $300 or more

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4 years ago#14
joyce
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hi there have a remington pump .22 excellent condition
do you have any info and how old is this thx in advance
serial number 370 586 over the number RW
remington arms jan5 1909 oct 12 1909 mar 8 1910 nov 2 1911 apr 16 1912
remington trademark.22 short long or long rifle
there are no letters on the side at all this gun comes apart at the butt
thanks in advance

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4 years ago#15
SiliconSorcerer
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RW is Remington Works they all have that.

370587 was made in 1916 before they were date coded, they were also not marked Model 12 until later.

In truly EXCELLENT condition they is a large collectors market for them. C's (Hexagon)and B's (Gallery - short only, Hexagon) bring more then A's but no-one will pass on an excellent A at the right price either.

I have at least one of each A, B, C, and F's mint including a gold inlaid. I haven't found a mint D or E, and probably couldn't afford one anymore anyhow F's can easily go for over $8,000 if the condition is there.

Also I would get a can of renaissance wax and do the ENTIRE gun, all metal and wood (it's actually advertised for wood and your find it online at woodworking places) this is excellent stuff and what museums use on their firearms. It will allow you to touch the gun without constant worry of getting oil from you skin on it.
OR you could sell it to me cheap

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4 years ago#16
joyce
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wow thanks so much for the info i will be going shooting when i get to the cabin sorry not for sale but nice try lol i have an old berthier rifle too i got this pump .22 as a gift for xmas from a client i just love it thanks ace
ps so value of what i have

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4 years ago#17
SiliconSorcerer
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Actually ACE is a grade, I'm Silicon Sorcerer

I would recommend you not use high velocity 22 ammo, probably wouldn't be a problem with that design but the gun was designed that ammo didn't exist. I've seen this break early Martin levers like the 39 (pre-39A).

If you have other questions you can always visit the Remington Society of America the forums are open (registration to keep out spam) to the public.

Click the service desk, that would be me.

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4 years ago#18
jdhgiterh
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me to just no model #s eather
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3 years ago#19
nrose07
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I've just gotten one from my grandfather also. The link above doesn't work anymore so I'm guessing it is the same. No markings on the side of the barrel.

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3 years ago#20
kcbuck
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What is the model number / model name?

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3 years ago#21
nrose07
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Don't know. No marking other then what you see.

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3 years ago#22
kcbuck
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Rose:
My Remington serial number references aren't that great "259032" so it could be a Model 12/12A Series or a Model 121/121A Series but can't tell from the pictures.... However, both are valued real close to each other. Ergo, as a base value;
Exc. Cond: $495.00 - $550.00 USD
V.G. Cond: $350.00 - $375.00 USD
Good Cond: $225.00 - $300.00 USD
This gives you at least an understanding of the potential value until someone can identify it for sure.
Sorry,
kcbuck

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3 years ago#23
nrose07
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KcBuck I have a second nearly identical one with 328056 serial number. Can you date/id? 12a pretty sure.

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3 years ago#24
kcbuck
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nrose07:
As I indicated in my previous post my Remington references aren't all that good. However, I believe the Model 12 only has one band support for the tube magazine and the 12A has two. This is about all I can do for you without better quality pictures showing both side of the firearm, close ups of the receiver both sides, and all symbols and markings.... Serial Number wise puts it in the late teens (1918 or 1919).

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3 years ago#25
beretta2
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Hi, I also have a 12A 22 pump with a serial # of 171650 and was wondering if anyone could tell me about when this would have been made . Gun is in good condition but has been a shooter most of its life and it will shoot shorts , long or long rifle ammo. any info would be great . thanks

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3 years ago#26
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Been out of the country...
I see these, yell if I missed <phone>
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3 years ago#27
beretta2
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Thanks man so now what do you think it is worth ? it is really good shape although it has been a shooter most of its life . got any idea's as to the value of it or a good guess because I have none . thanks for your help

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3 years ago#28
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Well depends on what good is, don't mean to pull a Bill Clinton but everyone's definition of good is different if you look at my profile I have a rating system. Any solid model 12, meaning it's wood isn't beat all up and looks to have some finish and isn't rusty is at least a $350 gun, the value then starts to climb but they rarely go over the 500-600 unless they are getting into the excellent 90%+ and then prices can reach $1,000 for a 12A in like new condition.

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3 years ago#29
beretta2
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hey I also have a 12 gauge Remington 870 pump that was given to me when my uncle pass away , serial # is 318707V and was wondering what year it was produced? it is in very good shape I got a laugh out of it when I seen on the barrel 2 3/4 or shorter as i ave never seen that on a gun before . thanks for any info anyone can find me , i have searched the internet and came up with nothing . thanks Tom

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3 years ago#30
SiliconSorcerer
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870's are all date code stamped on the barrel, look for the code on the left in front of the receiver and check the Remington Society of America manufacture date page for table.

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