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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #1
Last Edit: 2009/10/27 10:08 By RANisbet.
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #2
Bob,

Here is the data which I emailed to you.

I went at it this way. I went to a site that deals in Winchester Commemoratives http://www.doublegun.com/roth.htm and plotted up the less common rifles versus their
asking price. I limited the data to production runs of 2500 or less on the horizontal axis. From the chart #1 you
can see the data scatter. Then I plotted just the 500 and less production runs on chart #2. This might not be realistic because of the limited amount of data but it certainly has a trend. The fewer guns = higher value. No revelation there. From chart 2 you are looking at maybe $5000 for the rifle. On both charts $ are vertical and production run is horizontal. I hope this is of some help
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #3
Bob,

Here is chart number 2.
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #4
Let me try again
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #5
Well I'll be. It worked!!
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #6
Being an engineer, that type analysis is perfect to impart enough good information to make an informed decision.
It would appear that the charts lean toward a value exceeding $3000.
Only challenge is whether there are buyers out there that actually would pay the indicated prices or whether those projected prices correspond to what a seller would ask, not what would be a final acceptable sale price.
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #7
Bob,

And as an engineer you know the risk of projections based on insufficient or inaccurate data.

As a collector you well know there is obviously a gap, sometimes a huge one between asked and accepted prices. Good luck. It is a very nice looking rifle. My bet is that it has never been fired.

Glad it was of use,
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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #8
I also am a member of the Winchester Colletor's Forum.
Bert, one of the experts there offered a completely different view of the valuation, based on the fact that this rifle was a special order and not one made by USRA as an official commemorative.
Any further thoughts.
The ref link to the Winchester Collector's forum thread info is below. http://www.winchestercollector.org/forum/viewtopic.php? t=3010

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Posted 4 Months, 3 Weeks ago #9
I'll always bow to Bert's expertise. Sounds like it just got more expensive
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