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4 years ago #1
Bowdeen
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I have a 98 Mauser 8mm numbered stamped 27798 also stamped-- model 98, 2 small eagles holding swastikas
1944,a sheild with a 13 on it and a capitol K next to it als odot is stamped on the top
It is in really nice condition
I would like to find out whatever I can about it with a approx value
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4 years ago #2
Kleist
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Need to know if its original.

Can you post pictures?

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4 years ago #3
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13 in a shield with K indicates post war use and rework in Eastern Germany or Czech republic.
COl R

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4 years ago #4
Bowdeen
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I can post pics when my wife gets back with camera
I exspect it is all orignal
looks new except for metal butt stock cap
DOT & 1944 stamped on top Sheild and K on side with K almost covered by wood stock

I do know it was brought back from ww2 by a vet

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4 years ago #5
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13 in a shield is not post war.


You have a very late 1944 Nazi german made K98. The five digit SN rolled into 1945.


If its all correct and not altered or cleaned after the war, it should be worth $850 to $2000 depending..



Post pictures.


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4 years ago #6
Bowdeen
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I will post pics as soon as possible I am sure there has not been any altering
The butt stock plate is rusted from being stood up with the plate touching concreat
Before those 2 weeks of exposure it was in the back of a closet for years after the war
From what I have read I will get some kroil for it
The rest looks great to me with no dents etc
The man who brought it back would not fire a gun ever again So I think it has been setting in that closet for all these years
I am excited to find a place where I can find out about it

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4 years ago #7
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Hold off on any cleaning untill you post pictures..


Kroil is the thing to use along with bronze wool but damage can still be done doing that.


For some reason everyone wants to clean it, thats why there are all those guns with sanded stocks thinking they did something great when they just killed the gun IMO..


Take shots outside with overcast. Don't use a flash.
Use the macro button for up close shots of the proofs and codes. Also, don't take it apart.



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4 years ago #8
Bowdeen
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These are the best pics I can get for now
The weather is not great right now for natural light pics
The flash did kick in for 2 of the pics but I think they came out OK

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4 years ago #9
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More pics

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4 years ago #10
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Great original gun...looks real. Keep it and dont sell

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4 years ago #11
Bowdeen
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Had a small electrical fire at the house today
Makes me wonder what the value of some of my guns are and if my home owners insuance would cover them
Calling the agent in the morning

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4 years ago #12
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Should have a bent bolt..since it is pre 1930 straight bolt that means it is not original to the WWII date. Value is 3-400 all day.
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4 years ago #13
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The COL is correct about the bolt. It is not correct for this rifle. That hurts value.

Also, the stock was duffle cut to bring home. The end of the stock is missing but it looks like you have all the parts to fix which is the important part. These parts are usually gone. You just need the end of another stock to restore.

Fix the stock and find a more correct bolt and you are good to go.

Are the bands and triggerguard numbered matching? Take it apart and see if the stock and handguard are matching.


Also, your buttplate looks fine. Its looks just like the one I posted and I didn't clean mine. If it's really bad rust you can put some oil on it but you don't need to monkey with that one.


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3 years ago #14
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I also have a 8mm german mauser rifle that is a model 98. It has two of the egales holding the swastikas and it was made in 1944. It also has the word dot. I only have one picture because my camera cant take good pictures close up. I would like to know how much it is worth.Thank you.

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3 years ago #15
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This is a sportorized version...value is about 500 as a shooter...if you can get a WWII stock then 1500

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3 years ago #16
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You would have difficulty finding a buyer for this at $500 and, even with a replaced stock set, you will not likely find a buyer for $1,500.

Collectors who purchase these rifles base price on originality, rarity, the number of matching parts and condition. While your rifle will definitely look better with a new stock set, it will never be fully original and/or matching again.

As to rarity, DOT 44 is common. If the bolt and/or other components have un-numbered parts or parts that match the receiver, it will help value. The condition looks fine based on the one picture but the stock is too far gone to factor into price.

If the barrelled action is all matching, I see this selling for $300-$400 to someone looking for a project. Add a correct stock set and the value would likely go up, but maybe not as much as that stock set will cost.

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3 years ago #17
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The number on the reciever is 8743 and it has the letters ah under them.There are things on the saftey and they look to be 7s with weird designs over them.The bolt has the numbers 8680 in different places on the bolt part. Where you put the bullets in has the number 38 with a weird design above it. The is some kind of thing under the word dot but i cant tell what it is and where can i get a stock.

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3 years ago #18
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This sounds like a mixmaster and value would likely be in the $250 range. If you can add photos of the weird bolt markings you described, it will help.

You can find stocks on ebay. Originally this rifle had a numbered stock and bands. At this point, any cupped buttplate stock set will serve fine for your restoration; however, your investment in a stock set will not likely make the rifle much more valuable.

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3 years ago #19
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Yes I was assuming all matched numbers...if its mis-matched parts then its almost impossible to sell ..except for parts

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3 years ago #20
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hello ,,typically i agree with the values given by DAK on this one but i'd even say lower in my aera on a mixed parts rifle in a home done stock ,,proably be around 150 like it is ,,if you get a replacement stock and handguard and bands then it might bring around the 250 value ,,but as DAK said the stock and hardware to return it to some originality would most likely cost you close to ...if not more than the value it has right now as is ,,
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3 years ago #21
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TB wrote:
and where can i get a stock



R-guns has them for $110 complete. http://www.rguns.net/gunparts/rifle-parts- boltaction.shtml



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3 years ago #22
TB
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I have another gun called a P.Mod.37,Kal.7,65. It is in very good condition.

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3 years ago #23
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Hi TB
THis is what we collectors call a Hungarian Femaru pocket pistol. Are the mags matched with numbers of the gun?

I am a buyer for these if you want to sell ...I have an FFL. Contact me at my Yahoo

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3 years ago #24
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3 years ago #25
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I am a collector and not looking to sell this gun. It is a Nazi proofed version because it has the eagle stamped into it. It also has the letters "jhv" and under them is the number 43. It also has some lettering next to the trigger. Both of the clips match. It can also fire. The bullets from the war were in it and most of them were marked green but one was marked red. The greens didn't fire but the red marked one did. Can I please know how much this gun is worth?

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3 years ago #26
TB
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I also have this nazi winter hat and i would like to know how much that is worth. It says 1943 inside the hat and then i really can't read the rest

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3 years ago #27
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The pins on the front of the cap are definitely reproductions which does not speak well of the cap itself. Much better photos are required to accurately appraise it

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3 years ago #28
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Value depends on the matching number on mags...I have asked you for that info.

If mags are not matched to gun....500
If matched then more.

Never met a collector who did not know what they paid for their collectible

and the answer is ???

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3 years ago #29
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I bought a rig last month exactly like this...500 for gun

200 for well worn holster.

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3 years ago #30
TB
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where are the numbers on the mag because all i see is the P.Mod.37 on the bottom of both clips. The serial numbers on the gun i believe are 62267. I didn't buy it i got it from my dad's friend's grandfather.

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