4 years ago #1
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marlin safety, octagonal barrel, markings include Marlin Fire Arms Co. New Haven CT USA. Patented Oct. 11 1887. April 2 1889. At rear of barrel on top: 38-W. Serial number is 30343. 22"? barrel, flip up rear sight, smooth walnut stock and front grip. Fair condition, mechanicals appear to operate, but firing condition unknown. Seeking age and approximate value. Thanks

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4 years ago #2
JP@AK
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Hello
It appears that you have a Marlin Model 1889 that was manufactured in 1890. Your example was chambered for the .38 Winchester Center Fire cartridge, more commonly known as the .38-40.
The barrel length is probably 24" (measured all the way to the bolt face, not just to the forward receiver ring). This is the most common length for guns of this model and the .38-40 was a common enough chambering also.
The Model 1889 was the first of the "Marlin Safety" rifles. This refers to the fact that the receiver has a solid top and ejection is to the side.
It appears that this rifle was refinished at some point in its life. The hammer, lever and butt plate on a rifle this early would have been case hardened and not blued. All three of those parts on your rifle appear to have been blued.
The overall condition of the gun is about NRA Good at best. There are parts of the wood missing on both the butt stock and the fore end. There is rust showing on the barrel and magazine as well as some spots on the receiver.
Value is probably in the $400-$500 range. If the lockup is still good, however, this would make a fun shooter. .38-40 ammo is still available and is even more so now because of the popularity of Cowboy Action shooting.
You will want to test your ammo cautiously, however, since this gun was made during the later years of black powder loads. Most of the modern cartridges, while loaded with smokeless powder, produce pretty low pressures, so I suspect you will be okay.
BTW - I can't help with the value of the dog.
Regards,
JP

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4 years ago #3
Rob62
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Looks like a standard Marlin 1889 production rifle. Look here for some general info about this model and its ID's.
http://homesteadfirearms.com/appraisals/marlin1889/ default.htm
http://homesteadfirearms.com/appraisals/marlin1889/ 1889model-configurations.htm#c

The year of manufacture for serial number 30343 is 1890

Very rough specimens start at about $500 and go up exponentially from there. I would not say yours is very rough, although it is missing pieces of its stock - this alone knocks down value quite a bit.

Most "average" on the market 1889's that I have seen are somewhere in the $800 - $1,200 range. I think yours would be in this realm. With the broken stocks - both front and rear look damaged, I would place a value of $650 - $850 on your rifle. Second edit - the more I think about that stock the more I am inclined to agree with JP and say that value would be in the lower end of what I put - certainly I think $550-$650 would be dooable - at least around here.


Edited - removed the part about caliber/chambering. It could not be the 38-55.

Edited to add - JP we did it again

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4 years ago #4
JP@AK
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Rob62 wrote:
Edited to add - JP we did it again :laugh:

Yes, we did!
And see my note on the .38-55 on the other, similar thread asking about a Model 1889.
Cheers.
JP
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4 years ago #5
bcamp100
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Thanks JP.
It was passed to me from my dad. I plan on getting it checked out at a gunshop

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1 year ago #6
Luke123
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I have the same gun as this person but mine needs a barrel-a stock and a forearm or rest{wood} anyone know where to get these parts? Ty-Ray

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1 year ago #7
wildwilly223
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NA buddy just gave me One missing the bolt and some other internals. Could be One of us could be in luck.

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1 year ago #8
Luke
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Let me know how i can reach you maybe i can sell mine or buy your parts.
Do you need my email NA?This gun is
125 years old the stock and forearm i can get the barrel is MUCH harder.
Lets talk and thanks-Ray

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1 year ago #9
wildwilly223
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If you can send me your e Mail Ill be glaf to Talk
Will

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1 year ago #10
Luke
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<email>


Thanks I will be waiting

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1 year ago #11
wildwilly223
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Please contact me through e bay ( wildwilly223) i Do Not want to give Email address out on Forum

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1 year ago #12
Luke
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ok i dont have ebay but i will try thanks


Ray

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1 year ago #13
wildwilly223
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Get it?

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1 year ago #14
Luke
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im trying to either pm you direct or get on ebay so far neither has worked? Ray

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1 year ago #15
wildwilly223
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Just Email me <email>

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1 year ago #16
Luke
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im now on ebay willy how do i find you there are u selling certain parts?

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1 year ago #17
Luke
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what are you selling now im on ebay wild willy223

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1 year ago #18
wildwilly223
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Type in Wildwilly223 in the search. Pick item should have a Spot to ask seller question that will go to my e Mail leve me your e.Mail address there. This board will Not Show the address on it.... Antonio zoli firing pins should get you to me as well.

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1 year ago #19
Luke
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ok just contacted you willy

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