luger

Could anybody tell me anything about this pistol it has 3 pheonix stamped on the side ser number 9541r

a luger is one of the hardest guns to give values on ,,because there alot of factors you have to concider,including ,,original finish,,matching numbers on all parts including the mag,,markings and dates on top of receiver ,,which german proofs ww1 or ww2,,these are the pheonix's i think your talking about,,they should have a number underneith them for the inspector ,,the grips on yours are very clean,,they may be a replacement,,,may not..the most important thing is matching numbers ,,you said the serial is 9541 i beleive if memory serves me right there should be the number 541 on any visable part ya can see a number on ,,the top date is very important also along with any codes like S/42 or BYF or crowns or words like Erfurt or mauser,,need more info before we can give ya some kind of balpark figure ,,but keep in mind that certain lugers are very valuable and i might be able to give you book prices and some history ..you should have it professionally aparaised because there were soo many variations that can easily be over 1000 and up to 5000+ dollars depending on correctness+ matching examples and makers or country of origin,,just a guess for now with the markings you show i would say it's a ww2 example but i can't venture a guess for values without the other markings..
bigcurt

Thanks for the quick reply. Here is some info on the gun . All numbers are matching except the mag which has no number. On the under side of the barrel behind the number there 8.82 stamped. On the top there is only the letters DWM, there is a proof mark on the top side of barrel cant make it out, 3 what looks like pheonix on the right side and one small pheonix on left side. The serial number is 9451r

any small numbers under the birds? and there should be a date on top of the chamber aera... made by DEUTSEHE WAFFEN UND MUNITIONS in Karlsruhe Germany.this is a good canditate for a professional hands on apraisal and inspection ,,or someone more knoledgable in lugers ,,they have always been outa my price range so i never really did alot of research on them ,,DWM made alot of different models and without a good inspection it would be very hard to determine which model you have but all of the models are priced from 600 lowest condition with some bringing 5 digit numbers ,,,
bigcurt

Thanks for reply
I am unable to find a date on this gun or numbers under the pheonix. I am also buying a mauser luger s/42 in perfect condition with 2 matching numbered mags and holster. going to cost me but cant turn this one down, hope to have it early next week.
Thanks Again