I HAVE AN 1899 MODEL 04-22 22 CAL. RIFLE. HOW MUCH IS IT WOR...

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6 years ago #1
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I HAVE AN 1899 MODEL 04-22 22 CAL. RIFLE. HOW MUCH IS IT WORTH?

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6 years ago #2
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Guest,

There is no Model 1899 made by Winchester. So I am a bit stumped here. You might be looking at a patent date but they do not help much. Can you please post some photos and we can try to figure it out? I am going to assume it is a pump action rifle.

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6 years ago #3
mal
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I have the same gun Dated Aug,s 9 1899

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6 years ago #4
Jose Francisco
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I have the same gun here in Brazil.
date august 28 -l899.

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6 years ago #5
Jose Francisco
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Bye the way i am looking for the serial number of the gun.
What is the localization in your gun?

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6 years ago #6
NebraskaHick
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The August 1899 is the Patent Date.

The gun is a Winchester Model 1904. This is a "youth" gun, and there is no serial # on these.

They were produced from 1904 to 1931, and 305,984 were made. Early barrels were marked MOD. 1904. The Model 1902 changed the marking to MOD. 02 in 1919. ASSUMING they made a similar change in the 1904 the same year, yours (and mine) would be after 1919.

Interestingly, variations of the 1900 model were not serialized. Those include the Models 1900, 1902, 99 (also called "Thumb Trigger", and the 1904.

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6 years ago #7
Doug in Eureka, CA
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To Nebraska-Hick:
It was a delight to read your comment about the Winchester Model 04-22(Patented August 29th, 1899). Yours was the only informational post I found on this little gun. Thank you for taking the time to help us better understand the history of the Mod.04.
As I too have one of these little single-shot 22s ("Short, Long or Long Rifle"), I was most interested to learn more about the gun. I began my early shooting carear(sp?)with this gun in 1950 and continued shooting it until it was replaced with a Rugar 10/22 around 1985. It was always an impressively accurate gun for me (even in those days of iron-sights).
Although it still functions well, it now hangs on my wall, as a "museum piece", along with another old single-shot favorite of my early youth, a .22 cal. Remington Rolling-Block.

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5 years ago #8
dan
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It is a model 04a with a patented date of 1899. Not a model 1899.

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5 years ago #9
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My was given to me by my dad which was pasted down from his dad and his dad before him. other words it was my great grandfathers and they used it on their farm to shot the hogs with before they slaughtered them. And it is dated. Aug 29th 1898. model 04A. I am 52 and have been shoting it since i was in the 4th grade. It is pasted down to my son now who is 27. 5 generations this gun has been in the family. it is the most accurate gun i have ever shot. So much fun. Just thought i would share this. have a plunking good time.

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4 years ago #10
andy
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so what is the value

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4 years ago #11
uvpuyf8pf7g
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it is not 1904 model number my gun says model 04-22 plain as day

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3 years ago #12
muller
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no its an .22 cal and I just want to know how much its worth

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uvpuyf8pf7g wrote:
it is not 1904 model number my gun says model 04-22 plain as day


Actully, it is a Model 1904... just one that was manuafactured after April of 1919. In February of 1919, Plant production manager Frank F. Burton issued a Change in Manufacturing Order to eliminate the first two-digits of the model designation from all models that were currently in production, resulting in the Model "1904" changing to "04". At nearly the same time, the Models 1890, 1892, 1894, 1895, 1897 were changed to 92, 94, 95, and 97 accordingly.

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muller wrote:
no its an .22 cal and I just want to know how much its worth


The value is determined by the graded condition of the rifle. We can provide a value estimate if you can post several clear detailed pictures of your rifle.

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3 years ago #15
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i have 1 of these model 1904 .22 short & long... from what i understand is one of the earlier or "first" makes of this model. does this make it a more rare gun? i ask because this gun and i have come to a crossroad. im wondering if i should keep orginal or have it cleaned up so that i can take my kids out and teach them how to shoot... same as all the other owners to this gun has been handed down to me from generation to generation. thank you for your time

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nvrmindme wrote:
i have 1 of these model 1904 .22 short & long... from what i understand is one of the earlier or "first" makes of this model. does this make it a more rare gun? i ask because this gun and i have come to a crossroad. im wondering if i should keep orginal or have it cleaned up so that i can take my kids out and teach them how to shoot... same as all the other owners to this gun has been handed down to me from generation to generation. thank you for your time :)


Hello,

No, it does not make it more rare... there were actually more of them made in the early years than in the later part of the production. The Model 04A is the rarest and hardest to find.

Keep it original and use it to teach your children how to shoot.

Bert H.
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3 years ago #17
Joe Joe
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I have a mod 04A patented August 29, 1898.

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2 years ago #18
dan
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single shot, stamp 22 long and under that short in good condition 300 to 800 dollars, also know as a youth gun around 36" give or take. first gun i ever shot at age 6 in 1960

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2 years ago #19
CarT
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The model number is 04-22

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1 year ago #20
Roelof
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Hi Jozay
I also got the same Wichester but you will be surprized
Dated August 29 1899 model 1902-22 Short Seriel no D9516
Do you have a rough estimate what the value would be of these rifles

Regards

Roelof(Republic of South Africa)

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Roelof wrote:
Hi Jozay
I also got the same Wichester but you will be surprized
Dated August 29 1899 model 1902-22 Short Seriel no D9516
Do you have a rough estimate what the value would be of these rifles

Regards

Roelof(Republic of South Africa)


The value is determined by the graded condition of the rifle. If you can post several clear detailed pictures of the rifle, I can assess it for you.
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1 year ago #22
Roelof
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Hello Bert H,

I thank you for your response. Please find attached
a few pictures that I took.

Regards

Roelof

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Hello Roelof,

Here is the U.S.A., your Model 1902 would be worth approximately $450. Based on the caliber marking on the barrel it was manufactured sometime between March 1914 and April 1919. The number on the barrel is not a serial number. Instead, it is most likely an export number.

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1 year ago #24
Roelof
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thankyou so much for your time and effort
bert...
it is greatly appreciated

Regards

Roelof

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6 months ago #25
KP
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Yes there's a Winchester 1899 22 rifle

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6 months ago #26
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KP wrote:
Yes there's a Winchester 1899 22 rifle


No, there was not! Did you bother to read the information contained in the preceding posts?
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2 months ago #27
Mja6323
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If that's the patent date then why is it different for each gun? Mine say August 20 1899. Everyone else here has a different date.

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1 month ago #28
Neville White
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Well I can tell you I have one the same...trombone action, octagonal barrel and a hammer dated 1911
Nifty,Australia

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1 month ago #29
tompeace
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Mine is a MOD 04-22 Short, They are a model 1904.
Australia.

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