i have a winchester model 1873 3rd. model built in 1888 24" ...

5 years ago #1
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i have a winchester model 1873 3rd. model built in 1888 24" round barrel in about 75% condition what is the value?

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5 years ago #2
2bit
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Guest,

Any chance it haas a pistol grip and checkered stock? Are you positive the wood has not been refinished? Or the metal reblued? The .44 cal helps.

If the answers are N, Yes, and Yes then about $3500 to maybe $4000.

Love to see some photos to be sure of the condition.
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5 years ago #3
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I may be high with 75% the blueing is mostly gone with some pitting the wood does not shine. It does not have a pistol grip or checkered stock or saddle ring. It is a sporting rifle. It has 2 or 3 screws that have been replaced not original. I do not know how to get picture in here. Thanks for all your help and inf.
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5 years ago #4
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Steve,

That is why I hate doing thiswithout photos. Yes by your description you are very high at 75%. Sound like it might take effort to stay above 50% condition if the bluing is gone and it is pitted.

I sent you my email address in a private message. Look in the upper right corner of the screen.

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5 years ago #5
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Steve,

Thanks for the photos of your rifle. It is definitely not a 75% condition gun. But, I have seen worse ones trying to be sold for crazy amounts of money.

When I look at your rifle it is obvious that most of the bluing is gone. That which remains is thin and has turned to brown. The wood though really doesn't look abused or have as much wear on it. That may sound good but I do think it is a negative in this case. The wood of the stock at the base of the metal butt plate is just short of the metal. It ought to actually extend just beyond the metal at that point. This is a common indication that the wood has been sanded at some time.


I would want to check the fit of the wood around the upper tang also but this is a point that makes me think it is not original. In addition, the stock has somebodies initials scratched into it. Looks like "E L".


The receiver is in fair shape. It has thin, 'turned to brown' bluing coverage but has not been "cleaned" with steel wool as so many can. The screw on the cheek piece is obviously not original and the other is badly abused. It appears that the wood fit of the fore end to the receiver is a bit low again.


The fore end just looks too good for the rest of the rifle. After looking at a few thousand of these rifles I can say that it should be more worn. The fit at both the end cap and the receiver is low to the metal. Pretty certain this has been sanded and refinished. Looks like the standard and original rear sight.


The barrel is fairly similar to the receiver in bluing coverage. The round barrel rifles are not as sought after by collectors as the octagon shaped.


I would grade your rifle as being in the 40 to 50% range since it has very little bluing left and I am pretty certain that the wood has been sanded and refinished. You get bonus dollars for being pre 1898 'antique' status and the .44 caliber helps also. But the condition still dictates. Yours is worth around $2000 to $2250.

Thanks again for your effort.
This is why photos are so important.

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5 years ago #6
Steve from GA.
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Thank you again so much for takeing the time to look at my gum. I appreciate your help. You help me out so much. Sorry I did not have photos to start with.
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Steve from GA.

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