Year and Value for Sears & Roebuck Model 25 583.2501 semi-auto 22

5 years ago #1
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I have a Sears & Roebuck Model 25 583.2501 semi-auto 22 long rifle. The only other things on the gun is the pat. number, ammo guide, and the letters LG under a triangle symbol. Is there a way to tell the year of this gun?

It jams a lot and occasionally double loads. Any suggestions as to why its doing this and is it possible to get it fixed and still make a profit?

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5 years ago #2
straightshootist
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Just picked one up in almost New condition for $100, Most of these were made in the 50's, haven't shot it yet but these old Rifles especially Autos should be cleaned after shooting, the powder blowback gets into the receiver.I would look closely at the Extractor grooves in the Barrel, if it is full of powder the extractor can't reach behind the fired case to remove it therefore the next cartridge doesn't know the fired case is still in the chamber.Use a paperclip or toothpick to clean.

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5 years ago #3
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Thanks for the info, I'll see if that takes care of it.

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5 years ago #4
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I finally went out and shot my Sears & Roebuck 22 Rifle today like yours and it did the same thing to me as you described, it tried to load 2 rounds into the chamber, so somewhere in the loading Mechanism I have a problem, I will look into it. The Rifle was completely taken apart and cleaned prior to shooting so the grooves as I mentioned before is not my problem, most likely worn parts.I will get back with you on this.

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5 years ago #5
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OK got it figured out. these Rifles are made inexpensive for the Plinker who can't afford the best, therefore there are several Sheet Metal parts in the Mechanism, one of them holds the next round in it's grip, it protudes from the bottom into the Chamber area, I removed it via a couple of screws and carfully squeezed it closed .010 to hold the rounds a bit more secure, using a pair of Dial Calipers I measured it prior to squeezing it, try this it should help in the feeding problem you have.

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5 years ago #6
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Thank you for all the information, I'll get on that. If it fixed yours hopefully it should take care of my problems. It'll be nice to have it back in working order.

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5 years ago #7
straightshootist
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Be sure to use good Ammo like CCI Mini Mags.

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5 years ago #8
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Squeezing it the .010 worked out great, I shot almost 100 Rds. of CCI Mini Mag today without any double feeding problems, the Rifle functioned perfectly with the new fix and the CCI ammo. You can buy inexpensive dial Calipers for $20 at any Harbor Freight store.
Good Luck

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4 years ago #9
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I finally got my 22 apart and fixed as you suggested. I took it out the other day and it worked perfectly. I used the CCI rounds with no problems. Thanks again!

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4 years ago #10
Randy
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I have the same rifle, it was my grandads, and hasn't been fired in 25 years. I had a buddy take it apart and was cleaning it. he got mad and left it in peices, and I don't know how to put it back together. more specifically. the bolt, and spring assembly. not sure what goes where. thanks

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4 years ago #11
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I have actually owned this gun from when i was a boy and I'm not sure what you are shooting but i found that what you describe happens with .22 shorts. I would suggest switching to .22 longs because for me this has solved the problem. Hope I didn't state the obvious to much. Good luck with the problem.

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4 years ago #12
John
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I have one of these I got from my grandfather. Anyone know how to site in this gun - left to right - (not vertical using the elevator)?! Are the sites fixed? I don't want to damage with force...Any advice is appreciated.

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3 years ago #13
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I having the same problem but I took mine to a gun smith because I am worry about making the problem worst.

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3 years ago #14
RangerJK
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I am in need of a few parts if you do consider selling it. Not a tough unit to assemble, but parts are scarce.....

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3 years ago #15
Steve
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I also have a Sears and Roebuck Model 25, 583.2501. You can go to this site http://www.histandard.info/datapublic/serial/
and click on assemly date codes. This will tell you the month and year your rifle was made. It is in PDF format.

I got my rife when I was 12 years old. My model 25 was made in November of 1963. It was only a month old when I got it for Christmas. The best Christmas I ever had and most expensive present I had ever received from mom and dad. I guess they got tired of hearing me beg for it and decided just to shut me up! Ha!

My model 25 is in excellent condition. Not one scratch on any part of rifle. I have never had any problem with jambing but then again I have always used LR ammuntion.

I hope this has helped you and that you cherish your Hi-Standard/Sears and Roebuck model 25 as I do mine.

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2 years ago #16
Hyperreal
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Mine double-loaded at first, so I field-striped it, and oiled everything after cleaning. I had been warned not to take the trigger-hammer assembly apart, and so didn't, but made very sure it was clean and sparingly oiled. Some of it looks pretty iffy when you get it apart, but it's been working fine since. I like the fact that it's carbine (the old M-1 carbine) size.

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1 year ago #17
mb_con
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I have this gun and thanks to you I now know it was made in may of 66 I got it from the original owner whom I did some work for. It hadn't been shot in over 30yrs I cleaned it sited it in with it's original scope and at 75yds I had an MOA of 1 3/4" which I thought was damned good for a 50yr old gun and scope. Oh and a 60yrs old
marksman lol..

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12 months ago #18
tj
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yeah I think he's got it right you need to clean that baby I got one that just tore apart tonight and cleaned I don't think is a clean since 1960 it was misfiring I don't think I'm going to have a problem with it now

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6 months ago #19
Powell464
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My grandpa bought it in the 50s and gave it to me couple of years ago and I haven't had any problems with it at all and mines really beat up

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5 months ago #20
robby
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Clean it and oil it but don't over oil it I have the same 22

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4 months ago #21
Dave
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have one myself and it shoots great.You MUST use High-Velocity ammo in these.

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3 months ago #22
rock
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I have a model 25 , ran thousands of rounds threw it with no problem, they seem to work great with the mid size rounds, shorts dbl load and longs gam it up, hope this helps.

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1 week ago #23
gray fox
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Where is the serial number on these rifles

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1 week ago #24
Keydet92
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Gray Fox,
It may not have a serial number. Prior to the Gun Control Act of 1968, long guns were not required to have serial numbers and many manufacturers did not serialize their budget lines. Remember, this gun was made during a time when you could order it from the Sears catalog and have it shipped to your house. It's a High Standard A1041 Sport King made for Sears.

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1 week ago #25
gray fox
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It does not have a serial number or a date code. It has two small arrows side by side and a symbol above them. Kind of resembles a megaphone.

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1 week ago #26
gray fox
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Upon examining the marks more closely using chalk to bring them out it has two capital I's. the Hi Standard chart says that's September 1965.

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