32 Caliber Smith & Wesson, New Police Model, #33628

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DeLong
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I have 32 Caliber Smith & Wesson, New Police Model, pistol that was my Grandfather's and has the manu. # 33628. Along with it I have a typed letter from the fella that he ordered it from dated Oct. 5th, 1924, his certificate of registration dated August 6, 1925 and a safety inspection card dated Nov. 7, 1927. I have a story that goes with it that states we have the original grips I will show in a photo that were changed out for larger ones because my Grandfather used the pistol for hunting mink. Any of idea of the value of my collection?

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4 years ago #2
JP@AK
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Hello
Your gun does display indications that it was produced in the 1920s. The condition is quite good, with most of the blue intact. As you say, the stocks on the gun are much later (after 1968), but the other stocks are period. Is the serial number written on the inside of the right panel?
I am quite certain you left a digit out of the serial number. Is this the number on the butt of the gun? That one, and not the one in the yoke area, is the serial number. It should also appear on the rear face of the cylinder and on the flat under the barrel.
Also, please clarify the caliber of your gun. Is it .32 S&W Long or .32 W.C.F.? This is quite important in determining the actual model of your revolver.
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Also, could you please post a photo with the stocks removed?
Just for clarification, there was no "New Police Model" made by S&W. That is a name applied to Colt's revolvers. The S&W .32 Regulation Police had an odd, stepped grip frame. It seems more likely that your revolver is a .32 Hand Ejector Third Model. But we'll see.
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4 years ago #4
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I took all of the info from the paperwork I have which I was always told went with this pistol. Perhaps the story has been handed down incorrectly. My husband took the grips off and the butt of the gun states 124266. One side of the barrel states Smith & Wesson and the other side states 32-20 CTG if that helps.

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Another photo.

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One side of the barrel states Smith & Wesson and the other side states 32-20 CTG if that helps.


Okay. This is what I suspected after looking at your earlier photographs. This is a .32-20 Hand Ejector Model of 1905, Fourth Engineering Change revolver. It is built on the K size Military & Police frame. It was cataloged by S&W until 1940, although evidence indicates all of the frames were actually manufactured quite some time before that. This one obviously shipped in the 1920s, and appears to be original in every way (except the added stocks, of course). The last serial number in this sequence was 144684, and it may have been manufactured as early as 1929.

The .32-20 (also called the .32 Winchester Centerfire, or W.C.F.) was chambered in the K frame revolvers (only) from 1899 until 1940. After the war, production was never resumed.

The retailer was either confused or simply made up the "New Police" moniker. So far as I know, S&W never called this gun by that name. However, the provenance provided by the paperwork you have is wonderful and you should take care to preserve it.

A .32-20 HE in this condition is collectible and will probably carry a value in the neighborhood of $900-$1100. It would be worth more if you still had the original box and tool kit. But the paperwork you do have will increase collector interest and maybe the value. The post-1968 stocks add nothing to the value and I would suggest you put the originals back on the gun so it can be seen in its original configuration.

By the way, the .32 HE Third Model I mentioned earlier is a different gun chambered for a different round. A version of it was known as the "Regulation Police" so I wondered if that was what you had (although seeing the factory stocks made that seem unlikely). But seeing the gun with the stocks removed and knowing that it is chambered for the .32 WCF, confirms that it is not one of those, which were an I frame revolver chambered for .32 S&W Long.

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JP
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