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Posted 4 Months, 1 Week ago #1
hi i have a Winchester 1894 long barrel 30-30 and its in good cond, i use it every year for deer hunting. the serial # is 83184 whats the year and value? thank you it was my dads.
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Posted 4 Months, 1 Week ago #2
Road runner,

The easy part is the year. 1897!! The value is much harder based on just "good condition". Your idea of good and mine are probably two very different rifles. Please read the following post.
http://www.gunvaluesboard.com/why-i-need-photos- 254864.html#25490

I need a detailed description and / or photos to give a reasonable number. The range could be $500 to more than $5000.

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Posted 4 Months, 1 Week ago #3
k i will get you some pics thank you
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Posted 4 Months, 1 Week ago #4
i'm still working on the pics.. it says they are to big. the gun has never been refinished or reblued.. like i said i use it all the time.. i just went shooting to check the sights.. no cracks or scratches in the wood. no rust or pitting anywhere.. always cleaned off after being in the woods and fired and oiled..
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Posted 4 Months, 1 Week ago #5
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That' great. I'll be looking for them

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Posted 4 Months, 1 Week ago #6
Last Edit: 2009/11/12 15:48 By roadrunnernc.
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Posted 4 Months, 1 Week ago #7
Road

Try opening the photo in Microsoft Picture Manager. It should happen automatically. Click on
Edit Pictures and then look to the right for Compress pictures. Choose Web Pages. Save the compressed image and choose it to download.

May the force be with you.
And good luck
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Posted 4 Months ago #8
did those pics work?
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Posted 4 Months ago #9
hello i know you are really busy but please finish thank you
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Posted 4 Months ago #10
Roadrunner,

OK. I finally got a bit of time at 5:30 this morning to closely look at your rifle. It is quite nice looking that is for sure. It must be very enjoyable to hunt with.

It has a unique rear sight on the barrel which was made by the Marbles company. The little button shaped elevator was the tip off. There were different numbers on these sights because they are rifle and in some cases caliber specific. I do not have a reference handy for which is correct for your rifle but will assume that the one on it is correct. You may not realize that the elevator positions are graduated in 50 yard increments. The lowest being for 50 and then on up. That way in the field all you have to do is estimate the distance to the target, adjust the sight accordingly and hold dead on to your aim point. There is no need to hold high or low to compensate for bullet trajectory.

What doesn't look correct is the fact that the sight doesn't show anywhere near the wear that it should considering the balance of the gun. There is typical thinning of the bluing on the fore end cap, magazine retaining ring and near the end of the barrel. Also the upper tang and the bottom of the receiver near the serial number the bluing is gone. But, then there sits that dark blue sight with little or no thin areas on it. A tipoff that it is original to the gun.

The bluing on the balance of the rifle looks very even and to never have been messed with. Obviously, the rifle has been well cared for.

The wood has a slightly differnet story in it. In your photo 4724 and 4732 you can clearly see the missing wood at the ears of the stock on either side of the upper tang. This is the hallmark warning sign of sanding on a stock. The fact that the slot in the upper tang screw has been marred shows that the stock has been removed. In addition, the screw slot on the left fore end cap is marred. That all says the wood has been removed from the rifle.

It is typical when looking at these rifles that there is not ONE thing but rather a set of occurences that tells what has gone on in the rifle hundred year lifespan. Your rifle is a very nice looking gun. From a collectors point of view though it gets hit pretty hard because it sure looks like the stock has been sanded at some time. Typically if it were in original condition the gun would be worth around $3000 or so. But I am afraid you would never get that from knowledgable collectors. And, "the guy down the street" probably won't pay anywhere near what a collector might for a nice gun.

I hope this helped.
Let me know your thoughts
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Posted 4 Months ago #11
Here is 4732 cropped.

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Posted 4 Months ago #12
And the tang screw head

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Posted 4 Months ago #13
I'll try that on again.

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Posted 4 Months ago #14
The file is still too large
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Posted 4 Months ago #15
thank you so much its funny how you see that stuff after someone shows you.. that is cool about that sight never knew that, i have never moved it and same with my dad he has never either, that cool info.. thanks again 2bit....
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Posted 4 Months ago #16
Roadrunner,

You are very correct about having things pointed out that you never notice since that is the way the rifle has always been to you.

I am glad you are happy with the assesment. I never know how someone is going to take the news.

Take care and enjoy your rifle.
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Posted 4 Months ago #17
Roadrunner,

You might enjoy these two posts which I did. They have similar outcomes but you can follow the logic on them without any trouble. They take a bit of wading through to get to the assesment near the end.
http://www.gunvaluesboard.com/hi-i-have-a-winchester- 1894-long-barrel-and-its-i-good-cond...- 265662.html#27832
http://www.gunvaluesboard.com/1894-25-35-that-wont- feed-251584.html

Enjoy
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