5 years ago #1
Guest
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Hi,

I have a Savage Arms Co. 22 S,L & LR pump action, clip fed (rifle) that is stamped on the barrel; Manufactured by Savage Arms Co. Utica, N.Y., U.S.A. patented - Dec. 25, 1906
The barrel is octagonal and 23.75 inches long. The wooden pump is 5 inches long and the pump slide action is 2.5 inches long. There is a metal butt with Savage Arms, Trademark and a Indian chief with a headdress on. There is also a 6 digit serial # on the metal piece that your fingers wrap around while firing. The metal piece blends smoothly into the wooden stock coming from the trigger guard. The front of the trigger guard is squared off and the clip goes into the gun there. The clip opening is between 1 and 3/16 and 1 and 1/4 inches wide. There is no model # anywhere I can find, I'm hoping I've described the gun well enough for anyone to tell me what model it is

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4 years ago #2
rboatright
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That was a VERY VERY GOOD DESCRIPTION.

Savage made six models of pump repeaters with box magazines, the 1903, 1904, 1905 1909, 1912,

only the 1903 had a 24 inch octagonal barrel.

the 1903 was made from 1903 to 1921.

since yours has a 1906 patent date, that means was made after 1906.

Here's a 1903
REMOVED

Is that your gun?

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4 years ago #3
Dave
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I believe I have this gun. I thought my butt place was not curved though. What is the value of this gun

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4 years ago #4
rboatright
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you probably have the patent infringlement copy, the Febiger Arms 22 caliber Automatic Rifle #1.

see this page for the story and photos to help you be sure.

I'm sorry to say I have no idea what the value would be.

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4 years ago #5
GeneB
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Savage only made 2 clip magazine fed 22 pumps - the 1903 and the 1909. 1903's went through several changes over the years of production but never had the model number stamped on them - the patent was granted in 1906 and that date was added to the barrel stamp, it is often taken as the model and you will find incorrect references to a model 1906, but it is not the model number - they are all 1903's. The 1909 had a 20" round barrel and a straight grip stock with a sheetmetal butt plate.

The Savage model 1904 and 1905 were single shots and the 1912 was a clip magazine fed semi-auto that looked much like the pumps. Since your gun has a Savage stamped Barrel and butt plate it can't be a Febiger.

The picture of a 1903 that is shown is from this web site http://www.rifleman.org.uk and is copyrighted by them - it's my gun and I gave them the picture to use. It is a very early 1903 with the long pistol grip - later guns have the knob moved about 1" forward. It also is chambered in 22 Short only and in that picture you can see it has a later version magazine than it would have originally came with - it should have a first style magazine in 22 Short only. That gun letters as being shipped on May 19, 1903 and has a serial number just over 1050.

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4 years ago #6
AJ
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Thanks for responding! As I look at my gun against the photo, my gun is the twin to the gun in the photo. So I have a match! It is a 1903 model, I just need to get a clip, as it is missing. Your serial #, is it on the flat metal on the bottom of the handle, right behind and part of the trigger guard? That's where my 6-digit # is.

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4 years ago #7
AJ
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Yes, that is my gun! I just now saw your post...sorry.

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4 years ago #8
GeneB
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I just happened on this site today and from looking at several questions about Savage rimfires I was shocked by all the incorrect info that was posted - I hope none of it cost you anything!

I also was surprised to see my picture of my gun posted without any statement of credit or a statement of having permission to use it! I gave permission to www.rifleman.org.uk to use it ( http://rifleman.org.uk/ Savage_1908_22_magazine_and_Patent.htm look down the page), I did not give them permission to let someone else use it, and I don't think they did give permission - http://www.rifleman.org.uk/copyright.html
Checking under Community Rules rule 7 is Do not infringe any copyright.

Another post on Savage Model 29's had almost a word for word the same description that is in the Blue Book (which is copyrighted material) - and that information on the 29 is not totaly correct - the Blue Book is often not a good source for detailed information on many firearms - it's has a great amount of info and that amount would be almost immpossible to put together without some errors.

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4 years ago #9
AJ
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Fortunately, I still have my gun! Every forum I've ever read has had bad information, but also good information. You have to sift through all of it and verify what interests you. Good luck!

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4 years ago #10
jade
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Thank you GeneB,
Can you please post the links to what you think are copyrights violations so we will be able to add a credit or edit them.
Why won't you sign in?

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4 years ago #11
GeneB
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After reading your post I realized the link I posted before didn't work - I corrected it in my previous post and here it is again http://rifleman.org.uk/ Savage_1908_22_magazine_and_Patent.htm

Farther down the page is a picture of a Febiger No 3 - incorrectly labeled as a No 1, they are aware of the error but have not corrected it yet. It's a No 3 because of the 'box' on the side of the reciever, it allows the gun to be switched from the 'A' position for automatic cycling to a 'P' position for manual pump cycling. The small prong sticking out below the box is part of the locking lug - in the 'A' position the lug is held open as shown in the main picture.

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4 years ago #12
jade
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I was asking about the threads on our forum where you found those violations.

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4 years ago #13
GeneB
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It's this thread -
go up to link #2 on this thread - notice the picture is from the british web site that I posted links to - and is not credited to them - the post is by rboatright. If you check the link I posted to the British web site you will see the exact same picture.

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3 years ago #14
JeremyB
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how can a man obtain one of the clips for one of these? My sargeant at work has one of these and its missing the clip. He can only shoot his one round at a time. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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3 years ago #15
Mad Dog
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They show up from time to time on Gunbroker and Ebay.

I think Triple K makes reproductions at a good price over on Gunbroker as well.

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3 years ago #16
JeremyB
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what do i look for? any keywords or anything?

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3 years ago #17
Mad Dog
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Just punch in Savage 1903

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1 year ago #18
Danny Moulder
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I need a magazine for the 22 short that you described , do you know where I can buy one

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1 year ago #19
two old dogs
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Original magazines are occasionally available on ebay, www.gunbroker.com and www.gunauction.com.

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7 months ago #20
calicokid
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Hi Gene, would you have an idea of the value of the clips to this gun, I have several, heard they could be very hard to find. Bill

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6 months ago #21
2012 Savage Arms
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I have the same gun as described- manufactured in April 2012

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6 months ago #22
two old dogs
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The subject rifle in this post is the Savage model 1903 which was made 1903-1921.

If you have a Savage Model 1903, it was not made in 2012.

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3 months ago #23
R Booth
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Great information. Where can I purchase an original clip for a model 1903? Price is a secondary concern. Thx db

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3 months ago #24
two old dogs
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Original magazines are occasionally available on ebay, www.gunbroker.com and www.gunauction.com.

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