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3 years ago #1
Bute
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I have a 12 gauge pump- winchester model 1987 and was wondering what it is worth? It is in good shape. Serial #452856 other #'s on barrel are Nov.25.90.Dec.6.22.July21.96.Feb.98.June14.98.oct.16.19 00.Dec.25.06

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3 years ago #2
bigcurt
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hello,,a typical winchester model 1897 shotgun in my aera in good working order will sell in the 350-450 range for a standard grade shotgun,,but value is always in the persons eyes whos buying it or selling it ,,i've seen md97's with price tags of over 500 but there just not a fast mover unless there a special grade or in really nice original condition..
bigcurt

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3 years ago #3
Bute
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Thanks for the help I was just wondering if it was worth selling or better off to keep as a keepsake.

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3 years ago #4
Bute
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BigCurt can you tell me what year this gun is. How can I tell by looking at the numbers?

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3 years ago #5
Bert H.
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Hello Bute,

The serial places the date of manufacture in the year 1909.

As bigcurt stated, the value for a standard Field grade Model 1897 in typically found condition is $350 - $500. If it is any other variation, the value can go up quickly.

Bert H.

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3 years ago #6
Bute
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Thank you.

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3 years ago #7
Jrdn
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How can you tell based on the serial # what year it is? I have one as well and would love this info...

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3 years ago #8
Bert H.
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Jrdn wrote:
How can you tell based on the serial # what year it is? I have one as well and would love this info...


Very simple... I have access to the original Winchester factory serialization records. Provide me with the serial number on your gun, and I will provide you with the month & year it was manufactured.

Bert H.
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3 years ago #9
Jrdn
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Excellent. When I get home I will look at it and reply with the #. Thank you for your help!

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3 years ago #10
Jrdn
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Serial # is 257832

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3 years ago #11
Bert H.
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Hello again,

September 1904. It most likely has a "D" stamped just above the serial number.

Bert H.

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3 years ago #12
Jrdn
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It sure does. Thank you so much!!

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3 years ago #13
Bert H.
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You are quite welcome

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3 years ago #14
Rob
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What about 1000201 with an E stamped above it?

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3 years ago #15
Bert H.
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Rob wrote:
What about 1000201 with an E stamped above it?


I assume that you are asking for the date of manufacture? If so, it was September 1951.

Bert H.
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3 years ago #16
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Nice of you to offer. I have,I believe,a Model 1884 or 1887 Winchestor 10ga Ser # 38386. I may have the Model wrong it's in the gunsafe and locked up but if you need it. I know it is a lever action and has "YUMA PRISON #35" on the stock.

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3 years ago #17
Bert H.
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medart01 wrote:
Nice of you to offer. I have,I believe,a Model 1884 or 1887 Winchestor 10ga Ser # 38386. I may have the Model wrong it's in the gunsafe and locked up but if you need it. I know it is a lever action and has "YUMA PRISON #35" on the stock.


Hello,

What you have is a Model 1887, and it was manufactured in December of 1891.

Bert H.
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3 years ago #18
medart01
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Any idea of value? It is in good to excellent condition. Considering the average guy back then was not as robust as today this had to be a ball buster. Not to mention dislocating your retina when you let it loose!

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3 years ago #19
Bert H.
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medart01 wrote:
Any idea of value? It is in good to excellent condition. Considering the average guy back then was not as robust as today this had to be a ball buster. Not to mention dislocating your retina when you let it loose!


I really need to see several clear close-up pictures of the gun to accurately assess the condition and value. All of the original Model 1887 shotguns were made with a case color finished receiver frame, lever, and hammer. How much of the case color is still present?

In regards to the 10-ga shells used back then, they were just 2-7/8" shells loaded with black powder, and with 1-1/8 oz of lead shot. Today's 3" 12-ga shells are much more potent. The recoil from those old 10-ga shells was actually rather mild.

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3 years ago #20
medart01
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I will get back with pictures. I am pretty sure I will keep gun and need to insure. It is such a historical piece connected to Yuma Prison. I was at the prison and they were trying every which way to get me to donate but I just can't give money away, I am not Buffett!

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3 years ago #21
Bert H.
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I will look forward to seeing the pictures.

Bert H.

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3 years ago #22
Star4747
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How about Ser number:
618524

Model 1897

Thanks!

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3 years ago #23
Bert H.
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Hello Star4747,

October 1914.

Bert H.

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3 years ago #24
ak
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What about serial number 440834 for the 12 gauge pump- winchester model 1897. 28" barrel, mod choke, fair grading with a minor split in the stock. Do you know how much it could possibly be worth?

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3 years ago #25
Star4747
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Thank you Burt!

It was my great grandfather's rifle. My father put a note in the case not to fire, guess the barrel is not very strong, with today's ammo....

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3 years ago #26
Bert H.
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Star4747 wrote:
Thank you Burt!

It was my great grandfather's rifle. My father put a note in the case not to fire, guess the barrel is not very strong, with today's ammo....


The note is not correct. The Model 1897 is a very robust gun & barrel. It can easily handle any modern 2-3/4" 12-ga shell as long as it is not loaded with steel shot.

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3 years ago #27
Bert H.
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ak wrote:
What about serial number 440834 for the 12 gauge pump- winchester model 1897. 28" barrel, mod choke, fair grading with a minor split in the stock. Do you know how much it could possibly be worth?


Hello ak,

Serial number 440834 is a January 1909 vintage "E" series gun. The split in the stock is the primary issue concerning the potential value. Can you post a picture of it?

Bert H.
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3 years ago #28
bee
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Hey bud can u tell me what year the # is for 338181? With a d above it

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3 years ago #29
Bert H.
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bee wrote:
Hey bud can u tell me what year the # is for 338181? With a d above it


Hello bee,

Sure... September 1906.

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3 years ago #30
gunman22
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can u tell me the value on my 97 .
my serial number is e 977160
its a 30 in barrel 12 guage

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