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hello ,,your first pistol i beleive is a Lahti model 40,,and although simular in appearence to a luger is not ,,it was designed by husqvarna and was adopted by the swedish in 1942 and production stopped in 1946,,with 80,000 pistols made,,value to a milsurp collector is between 400 good-around 600 exc
,,the next one is definatly a luger and i'd say from your description that it's a pretty standard model with the date yours is ,,proably a 1908 model military,,i assume it has the standard 4" barrel and the markings may be proofs ,,it may have saw service during both wars and the marks you talk about could be german ww2 inspectors proofs ,,but without a good pic of the markings i couldn't say for sure ,,value for a 1908 military would be around 1000 in vg condition ,,this would be for a model without a stock lug on the backstrap ,,if there a slot cut there it's the model with the stock lug which is a little more common and value for it would be around 800-900,,in good or better condition,,
bigcurt
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