1939 carcano

6 years ago #1
tony.v
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I am looking to find history and info on a 1939 R E Terni 7 35 cal. p1656. please help enlighten me on this gun

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6 years ago #2
Joegunn96
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Hi Tony, in looking through my military books , I can't
seem to find a 1939 model. All I show is a 1938 - 1941 & before. Caliber is correct, Could that be the year?

Sorry ....................................Joe

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6 years ago #3
Milspec
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Your Carcano is likely a Modello 1938 Short Rifle (M1938 Carbine) made in 1939. The "RE" indicates military usage (usually Army) and the 1939 stamp should be the year of manufacture. Your rifle is chambered in the Carcano 7.35x51mm caliber and fires a spitzer-type bullet. After 1940, all M1938 carbines were changed to fire the older 6.5x52mm cartridge.

Many of the M1938 Carcano rifles in 7.35mm were sold to Finland for use in the Winter War against the Russians. These are often marked with the Finnish Army property stamp "SA" and are sought after by collectors. Here's a web site that provides excellent information on your Carcano rifle:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcano

Please feel free to post photos or any questions about your Carcano. I certanly like mine...

Milspec

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6 years ago #4
Joegunn96
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Hi Tony, in looking through my military books , I can't
seem to find a 1939 model. All I show is a 1938 - 1941 & before. Caliber is correct, Could that be the year?

Sorry ....................................Joe

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6 years ago #5
bigcurt
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hello,,i'll jump in here with a value for ya since ya already know the history ,,and the information given already is excellent ,,the carcanos were once very cheap to buy and could be bought all day for under 100 bucks but since the 80's milsurp rifles have started to climb in value and are still raising ,,a new breed of collectors and shooter are buying these old war horses and finding out how fun they are to collect and shoot,,values for nice carcanos will range from 150-around 250,,for standard rifles ,,carbines have a little more value if complete and correct ,,it's a shame that at one time all guys did with these milsurp rifles was to buy them to sporterize and that goes for italians ,german,japanese,british, american and many other classic military rifles and these guns today can value many hundred of dollars in original condition but have a much lower value if modified or sporterized

,,,,so if there original and in military dress leave them alone and don't cut them down and mount scopes on them,,sell them to a military collector and go buy a sporterized rifle to hunt with ,,with the money you get from classic milsurps you can buy a nice sporter and proably have money for ammo left over ,,lol,,
bigcurt

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6 years ago #6
Tony.V
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Thank you all for your insight on my M38 7.35 x 51 fucile corto carcano. I've learned quite a bit in a short time. All of your help is invaluable and very much appreciated. I will sugest this sight to my freinds and accs.

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5 years ago #7
Woody Obenchain
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I don't know anything about the gun. However, my brother purchased one at an auction and needed parts, i.e., abayonet and cling swivel (rear), for the rifle. Do you have or can you get parts??? Plus Ammo.



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4 years ago #8
lee
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I have a 1939 Italian Carcano the only problem i'm having is finding ammo if anyone can help e-mail me at <email>

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3 years ago #9
Asbury
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I was left one by a relative and wish to sell it . has the SA mark and serial# 03556 stamped on barrel and stock

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3 years ago #10
Neal
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I have one with the SA marking. 1939 XVII.N8052. N8052 under the SA marking, and burned in the stock. Great shape. Don't know much more about it. Caliber 7.35. Don't see a serial number on it unless the N8052 is the serial number.

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3 years ago #11
Berettamen
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Neal,

That is the serial, N8052. Is there a Terni, Beretta or Gardone or Brescia set of lettering on the receiver top?

Dan

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3 years ago #12
neal
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brescia
1903

E6945 and it looks all original has the butt stock number burned in the stock just dont have a magizine and i dont know what type or size ammo to shoot in it if you could help me with this i would greatly appreciate it my grandfather brought it back from ww1 or 2 is there a difference with the marking of 1903?

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3 years ago #13
Berettamen
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Neal,

I am a bit confused by the 1903. Does this rifle have both a 1903 on the barrel at the receiver along with the 1939 XVII stamp?

Model 91 rifles, carbines and short rifles were made at FNA Brescia in 1903 so you likely have a converted rifle.

Some images would be helpful.

And these rifles don't have a magazine but do use a clip system which holds 6-rounds and are inserted into the top of the rifle with the bolt in the open position. These clips are expensive at $3 and more but can be found on Ebay or at your local gun show.

Dan

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3 years ago #14
neal
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dan it doesnt have the 1939 stamp it has 1903 an brisca on it but does have a place for clip but i dont have one what do i need to look for and is the value a little more i will try to upload some photos within the next few days and thanks for the help also.

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3 years ago #15
Berettamen
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Neal,

The value is based on condition of the bluing and wood stock. Ideally a matching rifle stock, original blue with no rust or pitting from earlier rust. And while I place my order I'd like a corrosion free bore, too.

With all of these a M91 Carcano long rifle in 6.5mm might hold a value of $400 or more.

The 'clip' is a piece that holds the 6-rounds together while in the rifle. As the last round is cycled into the chamber the clip falls out of the opening in the bottom of the stock. It looks like an opening for a magazine but is a 'C' shaped piece of thin metal designed to hold the rounds together for carry and holding them inline for the chamber. They can be found at gun shows and online (ebay) and are usually sold $3 to $5 each.

Dan

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3 years ago #16
variable73
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Does the SA stamp Finnish Army help on the value any?

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3 years ago #17
Berettamen
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I think I'm having three conversations at once about two or three rifles. Not possible to answer questions like this in one thread (postings).

For any new questions or rifles please use the "Ask a Question....Start a New Topic..." portion at the upper right of this page.

It feels like I'm talking to two people or maybe three here.

Dan

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2 years ago #18
afisk111
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How much Are you asking for it?

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2 years ago #19
MingoFrank
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Guest "afisk11",

Your responding to a year old post.

Buying and selling are not allowed on this site.

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2 years ago #20
charger
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try Graft@son reloading supplies,when that web site comes up look to the left side of the page and you will see ammo listed.when that list comes up click on rifle and that will come up by caliaber you would look for 7.35x51.

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2 years ago #21
kage
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sorry but i own a 1939 and im looking for some more information on it

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1 year ago #22
Ltighe
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Neal,

i have one with the same markings but has a sport stock. Its been passed down in our family. Have about 50 + rounds with 2 clips. I'm in the process of having it checked out to be sure its in shooting conditioning. Have not shot it since i was a kid over 40+ years ago. It appears to be in good condition

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